In message , at 00:24:16 on
Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Charles Ellson remarked:
(not sure if they take over if the bomb drops though).

Proximity might be a factor.

During the Cold War they'd have been one of the first into the bunker,
but now that most of the bunkers have closed, they won't have much
command and control capability even if they survive.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 08:11:55 on Tue, 21
Jul 2009, Martin Edwards remarked:
Conversely, I frequently have to tell people in Birmingham, where I now
live, that Watford is not in London, though it is actually in
Hertfordshire and about thirty miles from the Square Mile. Many also
think it is the same place as Watford Gap, which is named after a
village of 400 people in Northants.

The gap's named after the village of Watford. It's a fascination place
with (in order of development) Watling St/A5, Grand Union Canal
(Leicester Section), WCML and M1 all within a quarter of a mile.
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:17:04 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 20:13:24 on
Mon, 20 Jul 2009, Charles Ellson remarked:

There's an EU Directive that says all numbers must be portable.

I know, but the way OFCOM talks about them seems to suggest that they
use a different phrase for landlines.

Fixed line.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/cond...iew/statement/

Ta.

James Farrar wrote:

Yes, they can be, but in the real UK the set of government boundaries is
not identical to the set of geographic boundaries.

Aren't all boundaries, natural or artificial, in a sense "geographic"?

In message , at 11:13:14 on Tue, 21
Jul 2009, Tim Roll-Pickering remarked:
Yes, they can be, but in the real UK the set of government boundaries is
not identical to the set of geographic boundaries.

Aren't all boundaries, natural or artificial, in a sense "geographic"?

Sometimes difficult to draw on a map. Is it possible for "within the
sound of Bow Bells"?
--
Roland Perry

On 21 July, 11:13, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-
wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
Yes, they can be, but in the real UK the set of government boundaries is
not identical to the set of geographic boundaries.

Aren't all boundaries, natural or artificial, in a sense "geographic"?

Sigh. For some reason, people think that previous government
boundaries are geographic, or somehow real, but current ones are not.

You get arguments like "Altrincham is administratively in Greater
Manchester, but it's geographically in Cheshire". Bizarre. What do
they think "Cheshire" is beyond an administrative or government
concept?

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:07:14 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be MIG
wrote this:-

You get arguments like "Altrincham is administratively in Greater
Manchester, but it's geographically in Cheshire". Bizarre. What do
they think "Cheshire" is beyond an administrative or government
concept?

I suspect it has something to do with the length of time the
administrative concept of counties has existed. Not only that, until
relatively recently the administrative concepts did not change
boundaries too often.



--
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MIG wrote:
On 21 July, 11:13, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-
wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
Yes, they can be, but in the real UK the set of government
boundaries is not identical to the set of geographic boundaries.

Aren't all boundaries, natural or artificial, in a sense
"geographic"?

Sigh. For some reason, people think that previous government
boundaries are geographic, or somehow real, but current ones are not.

You get arguments like "Altrincham is administratively in Greater
Manchester, but it's geographically in Cheshire". Bizarre. What do
they think "Cheshire" is beyond an administrative or government
concept?

Cheshire is a group of people, many of whom were born as Cheshire and grew
up as Cheshire long before a particular group of Here Today, Gone Tomorrow
politicians told them that they no longer had the right to be Cheshire. Oh,
and it's a cheese.

On 21 July, 17:29, "Basil Jet"
wrote:
MIG wrote:
On 21 July, 11:13, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-
wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
Yes, they can be, but in the real UK the set of government
boundaries is not identical to the set of geographic boundaries.

Aren't all boundaries, natural or artificial, in a sense
"geographic"?

Sigh. *For some reason, people think that previous government
boundaries are geographic, or somehow real, but current ones are not.

You get arguments like "Altrincham is administratively in Greater
Manchester, but it's geographically in Cheshire". *Bizarre. *What do
they think "Cheshire" is beyond an administrative or government
concept?

Cheshire is a group of people, many of whom were born as Cheshire and grew
up as Cheshire long before a particular group of Here Today, Gone Tomorrow
politicians told them that they no longer had the right to be Cheshire. Oh,
and it's a cheese.

I haven't noticed people or cheeses changing name when they cross
administrative boundaries. I mean, that white crumbly stuff isn't
called Greater London Cheese in my local Tescos.

Members of a tribe called Cheshire can travel wherever they like.
What has it got to do with geographical boundaries?

MIG wrote:

On 21 July, 11:13, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-
wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
Yes, they can be, but in the real UK the set of government boundaries is
not identical to the set of geographic boundaries.

Aren't all boundaries, natural or artificial, in a sense "geographic"?

Sigh. For some reason, people think that previous government
boundaries are geographic, or somehow real, but current ones are not.

You get arguments like "Altrincham is administratively in Greater
Manchester, but it's geographically in Cheshire". Bizarre. What do
they think "Cheshire" is beyond an administrative or government
concept?

Many counties were originally defined by reference to *topographical*
features, for example having rivers as boundaries. A statement on
whether something is geographical or not is probably a malapropism for
that. For example, the northern border of historical Cheshire is largely
defined by the River Mersey, whose name is derived from an OE word
meaning "border", signifying that it was formerly the border between
Mercia and Northumbria, before Cheshire was invented.

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