On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, 1506 wrote:

On Jul 22, 4:25*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:34:57 on Wed, 22 Jul 2009,
Roland Perry remarked:
"The Icknield Way used to form part of the boundary between Hertfordshire
and Cambridgeshire, and at one time Royston was cut in two by this
boundary."

And thinking of some more examples, the county boundary runs through the
centre of Chorleywood (Herts, and probably Bucks, from memory) and I've
been to one town in the USA where the state boundary (between Georgia
and Tennessee iirc) went through the middle (either along the fairly
small river it straddled, or possibly relocated a quarter of a mile
north on the Main Street). Now that's what I call a legislative
nightmare!

It is now inevitable that someone will mention Baarle-Hertog.

And you just did!

I KNEW IT!

tom

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On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, MIG wrote:

On 23 July, 00:20, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, MIG wrote:
On 21 July, 22:43, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, MIG wrote:
On 21 July, 11:13, "Tim Roll-Pickering" T.C.Roll-
wrote:
James Farrar wrote:
Yes, they can be, but in the real UK the set of government boundaries is
not identical to the set of geographic boundaries.

Aren't all boundaries, natural or artificial, in a sense "geographic"?

Sigh. *For some reason, people think that previous government boundaries
are geographic, or somehow real, but current ones are not.

You get arguments like "Altrincham is administratively in Greater
Manchester, but it's geographically in Cheshire". *Bizarre. *What do
they think "Cheshire" is beyond an administrative or government concept?

An ethnic group. Whether this belief is correct or not, i cannot say.

So nothing to do with geographical or administrative boundaries then.

In what way is the boundary of the territory inhabited by an ethnic group
not geographical?

So Cheshire is now a territory? You just said it was an ethnic group.

I've changed my mind.

If Cheshire ever was defined as the area occupied by an ethnic group,
its boundary is probably pretty much the whole world by now.

Alright, Cheshire is the area inhabited predominantly by the Cheshese.

tom

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from Tom Anderson contains these words:

One so advanced they've lost the need to make decent cheese, apparently.

No, as it happens. You just need to buy the Real Thing(TM), not
something invented in ASDATescoburys. I have some rather tasty Cheshire
Blue on my plate right now...

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Dave,
Frodsham
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:11:21 +0100, David Jackson
wrote:
The message . li
from Tom Anderson contains these words:

One so advanced they've lost the need to make decent cheese, apparently.

No, as it happens. You just need to buy the Real Thing(TM), not
something invented in ASDATescoburys. I have some rather tasty Cheshire
Blue on my plate right now...


Is Cheshire Blue really "the Real Thing™"?

Without any AOC regulations such as those that apply to. for example,
Champagne wines and Melton Mowbray pork pies, no Cheshire cheese can
be truly said to be "the Real Thing™". But surely blue was not one of
the traditional cheeses associated with the Cheshire "brand"?

Having been brought up in "Lancashire" I am more a fan of the mild
"Lancashire Creamy" and sharper "Lancashire Tasty" cheeses, as I have
always found Cheshire cheese far too bland - and not just the
supermarket variety. Hence the Cheshire Blue, I suppose - one way to
give a bland cheese some flavour is to turn it blue. White Stilton is
also too bland to be enjoyable.

As for Cheddar, any cheese that can be made in locations as far away
from Cheddar Gorge as Canada and Israel cannot expect to be taken
seriously. ;-)

The message
from Bruce contains these words:

Having been brought up in "Lancashire" I am more a fan of the mild
"Lancashire Creamy" and sharper "Lancashire Tasty" cheeses, as I have
always found Cheshire cheese far too bland - and not just the
supermarket variety. Hence the Cheshire Blue, I suppose - one way to
give a bland cheese some flavour is to turn it blue. White Stilton is
also too bland to be enjoyable.

My early experience of Lancashire cheese did nothing to convince me that
the stuff *wasn't* made in that big factory by WBQ. However my more
recent samplings of the farm-produced brands have made me change my
mind, and I rather like Garstang Blue, although it's a bit on the soft
side. Cotherstone (or is it Cotherston, I can never remember) made in
Durham, is an interesting cheese, although it's not always easy to get.

The "Famous Cheshire Cheese, mentioned in the Domesday Book" is too mild
and crumbly to be of interest here. BTW, we were talking about *cheese*
so why did you change the subject to "Cheddar"? (Isle of Mull Cheddar
isn't too bad!)

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Dave,
Frodsham
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Tom Anderson wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, James Farrar wrote:

David Jackson wrote in
:

The message . li
from Tom Anderson contains these words:

What do
they think "Cheshire" is beyond an administrative or government
concept?

An ethnic group. Whether this belief is correct or not, i cannot say.

A very superior ethnic group!

Amen to that.

One so advanced they've lost the need to make decent cheese, apparently.

There are myths about Cheshire Cheese. One is that it is mentioned in
the Domesday book. It isn't. Butter, salt, beer, all those are mentioned
in connection with Cheshire, but not the cheese.

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David Jackson wrote:

The "Famous Cheshire Cheese, mentioned in the Domesday Book" is too mild
and crumbly to be of interest here

It isn't mentioned in the Domesday Book. I've looked. See my other
posting.
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:09:54 +0100, David Jackson
wrote:
The message
from Bruce contains these words:

Having been brought up in "Lancashire" I am more a fan of the mild
"Lancashire Creamy" and sharper "Lancashire Tasty" cheeses, as I have
always found Cheshire cheese far too bland - and not just the
supermarket variety. Hence the Cheshire Blue, I suppose - one way to
give a bland cheese some flavour is to turn it blue. White Stilton is
also too bland to be enjoyable.

My early experience of Lancashire cheese did nothing to convince me that
the stuff *wasn't* made in that big factory by WBQ. However my more
recent samplings of the farm-produced brands have made me change my
mind, and I rather like Garstang Blue, although it's a bit on the soft
side.


You like your blue cheese, obviously! I'm a fan of Rocquefort and
always have some at home. I've never tried Garstang Blue, but I will
try and get some next time I'm in Lancs - very soon. I always take a
12V coolbox in the car and stock up on Morecambe Bay potted shrimps,
Lancashire cheese and sticky toffee puddings - the latter for friends.

Cotherstone (or is it Cotherston, I can never remember) made in
Durham, is an interesting cheese, although it's not always easy to get.


Is that another blue? Can't say I have ever come across it.


The "Famous Cheshire Cheese, mentioned in the Domesday Book" is too mild
and crumbly to be of interest here.


My point exactly. ;-)


BTW, we were talking about *cheese*
so why did you change the subject to "Cheddar"?


Perhaps we should call it a "milk based savoury snack food".


(Isle of Mull Cheddar isn't too bad!)


I'll take your word for it. In the meantime, I wouldn't be surprised
to find Ukrainian and Chilean Cheddars in the shops. :-(

Bruce wrote:

As for Cheddar, any cheese that can be made in locations as far away
from Cheddar Gorge as Canada and Israel cannot expect to be taken
seriously. ;-)

Legally, Stilton *can't* be made in Stilton.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

The message
from Chris Tolley (ukonline really) contains
these words:

David Jackson wrote:

The "Famous Cheshire Cheese, mentioned in the Domesday Book" is too mild
and crumbly to be of interest here

It isn't mentioned in the Domesday Book. I've looked. See my other
posting.

Hence the quotation marks.

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Dave,
Frodsham
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