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"Mizter T" wrote in message
... On Jul 15, 3:11 pm, "David A Stocks" wrote: "tim....." wrote: "Graham Harrison" wrote: My first reaction was "Seems a pity not to connect either proposed station with any other rail/underground station even if it's only Battersea Park." but thinking about it what sort of travel opportunities would that open? Not many I suspect. Going on to Clapham Junction might be worthwhile but even then I'm not wholly convinced. It helps everyone who arrives on the Victoria "side" who wants to go to the city. Almost anyone arriving on the Victoria side who wants to go to the city is on the wrong train in the first place. They should go to London Bridge instead. Easier said than done in some circumstances though - look at the south eastern lines that only serve Victoria. A recent example was Maidstone - peak trains only go to Victoria from this Kentish town, though there are off-peak trains to London Bridge (but the capacity at London Bridge presumably isn't there for a peak time service). Yes, I can see that some of the South Eastern commuters are stuffed as far as direct services to the City are concerned. HOWEVER, Tim was talking about people arriving on the Southern platforms at *Clapham Junction* (he called it the Victoria "side"). South Eastern don't serve CLJ at all. I think all the stations between East Croydon and Clapham Junction get some kind of direct service to London Bridge, although one may well be better off changing to the Northern line at Balham. An extended Charing X branch Northern Line service to Clapham Junction is of very little use to SN pax wanting access to the City. -- DAS |
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On 15 July, 22:12, "David A Stocks" wrote:
"Mizter T" wrote in message ... On Jul 15, 3:11 pm, "David A Stocks" wrote: "tim....." wrote: "Graham Harrison" wrote: My first reaction was "Seems a pity not to connect either proposed station with any other rail/underground station even if it's only Battersea Park." but thinking about it what sort of travel opportunities would that open? Not many I suspect. Going on to Clapham Junction might be worthwhile but even then I'm not wholly convinced. It helps everyone who arrives on the Victoria "side" who wants to go to the city. Almost anyone arriving on the Victoria side who wants to go to the city is on the wrong train in the first place. They should go to London Bridge instead. Easier said than done in some circumstances though - look at the south eastern lines that only serve Victoria. A recent example was Maidstone - peak trains only go to Victoria from this Kentish town, though there are off-peak trains to London Bridge (but the capacity at London Bridge presumably isn't there for a peak time service). Yes, I can see that some of the South Eastern commuters are stuffed as far as direct services to the City are concerned. HOWEVER, Tim was talking about people arriving on the Southern platforms at *Clapham Junction* (he called it the Victoria "side"). South Eastern don't serve CLJ at all. I think all the stations between East Croydon and Clapham Junction get some kind of direct service to London Bridge, although one may well be better off changing to the Northern line at Balham. An extended Charing X branch Northern Line service to Clapham Junction is of very little use to SN pax wanting access to the City. My reply got put in completely the wrong place in Google; don't know what happened for proper newsreaders. Anyway, to expand on what I was saying, I don't think that there are any southeastern origins which lack services to London Bridge without offering peak services to Elephant (for the City branch and Bakerloo) and now also to Farringdon and St Pancras. |
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![]() On Jul 15, 10:12*pm, "David A Stocks" wrote: "Mizter T" wrote: On Jul 15, 3:11 pm, "David A Stocks" wrote: "tim....." wrote: "Graham Harrison" wrote: My first reaction was "Seems a pity not to connect either proposed station with any other rail/underground station even if it's only Battersea Park." but thinking about it what sort of travel opportunities would that open? Not many I suspect. Going on to Clapham Junction might be worthwhile but even then I'm not wholly convinced. It helps everyone who arrives on the Victoria "side" who wants to go to the city. Almost anyone arriving on the Victoria side who wants to go to the city is on the wrong train in the first place. They should go to London Bridge instead. Easier said than done in some circumstances though - look at the south eastern lines that only serve Victoria. A recent example was Maidstone - peak trains only go to Victoria from this Kentish town, though there are off-peak trains to London Bridge (but the capacity at London Bridge presumably isn't there for a peak time service). Yes, I can see that some of the South Eastern commuters are stuffed as far as direct services to the City are concerned. HOWEVER, Tim was talking about people arriving on the Southern platforms at *Clapham Junction* (he called it the Victoria "side"). South Eastern don't serve CLJ at all. I think all the stations between East Croydon and Clapham Junction get some kind of direct service to London Bridge, although one may well be better off changing to the Northern line at Balham. An extended Charing X branch Northern Line service to Clapham Junction is of very little use to SN pax wanting access to the City. Yes, I'd realised my mistake shortly after posting and was hoping to get a correction in before you came back to me on it, but alas I was out of the door perambulating on the street some distance from my keyboard when the realisation struck! As you rightly point out, what happens on the south eastern lines into London Bridge is totally and utterly irrelevant in relation to any considerations about the Northern line reaching Clapham Junction. Interchange with the Charing Cross branch of the Northern line at Clapham Junction might be of some use to some south central (i.e. Southern) pax wanting to get to the West End. Maybe. Bit of a round the houses route though. |
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