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Old July 29th 09, 11:21 PM posted to uk.railway,misc.transport.urban-transit,uk.transport.london
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On Jul 29, 3:28*pm, "Mortimer" wrote:
Now that the new station beneath St Pancras is open, is the intention to use
the old Thameslink station for something completely different (eg not
railway-related) and to remove / fill in the platforms? Or will it be left
as an emergency evacuation route?


Given the state of other unused stations on busy lines, e.g. St John's
Wood Metropolitan I think it is unlikely that the platform space will
be reclaimed. However, given the location I think it would make a
great of sense to sink some large supporting pillars thru the old
platforms in order to construct some retail and office space above.
The airspace here would seem to be reasonably "high value".

By the way, why are the signs in St Pancras for "First Capital Connect"
rather than the more well-known name "Thameslink"? Surely the description of
the *route* is far more important than the name of the current franchise
holder?


Pitiful, the whole system is pitiful.

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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 1506 wrote:

On Jul 29, 3:28*pm, "Mortimer" wrote:
Now that the new station beneath St Pancras is open, is the intention to use
the old Thameslink station for something completely different (eg not
railway-related) and to remove / fill in the platforms? Or will it be left
as an emergency evacuation route?


Given the state of other unused stations on busy lines, e.g. St John's
Wood Metropolitan I think it is unlikely that the platform space will
be reclaimed. However, given the location I think it would make a
great of sense to sink some large supporting pillars thru the old
platforms in order to construct some retail and office space above.
The airspace here would seem to be reasonably "high value".


At the moment, it's got a rubbish bar on top of it; it wouldn't seem to be
particularly high-value just yet. Doubtless, as King's Cross becomes more
desirable, it will.

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13:39:03 on Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Tom Anderson
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The airspace here would seem to be reasonably "high value".


At the moment, it's got a rubbish bar on top of it; it wouldn't seem to
be particularly high-value just yet. Doubtless, as King's Cross becomes
more desirable, it will.


It's a bit (metaphorically) low-rent around there at the moment. One of
the cheapest Travelodges overlooks the station. And much of the rest of
the area is alleyways and the backs of Victorian terraces.
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On Jul 31, 5:39*am, Tom Anderson wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 1506 wrote:
On Jul 29, 3:28*pm, "Mortimer" wrote:
Now that the new station beneath St Pancras is open, is the intention to use
the old Thameslink station for something completely different (eg not
railway-related) and to remove / fill in the platforms? Or will it be left
as an emergency evacuation route?


Given the state of other unused stations on busy lines, e.g. St John's
Wood Metropolitan I think it is unlikely that the platform space will
be reclaimed. *However, given the location I think it would make a
great of sense to sink some large supporting pillars thru the old
platforms in order to construct some retail and office space above.
The airspace here would seem to be reasonably "high value".


At the moment, it's got a rubbish bar on top of it; it wouldn't seem to be
particularly high-value just yet. Doubtless, as King's Cross becomes more
desirable, it will.

To the west on Euston road there is some high value property. To the
south is the west end, Bloomsbury, etc. With the developments around
KX, St P. it is only a matter of time before Pentonvile Rd perks up!



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Roland Perry wrote:

One of the cheapest Travelodges overlooks the station.


Cheap, but not necessarily nasty. I've stayed there.

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In message , at 17:23:13 on
Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Chris Tolley remarked:
One of the cheapest Travelodges overlooks the station.


Cheap, but not necessarily nasty. I've stayed there.


The Farringdon one has much nastier rooms, but the noise if you overlook
the station is incredible (tube trains as well as Thameslink, of
course).
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On 31/07/2009 at 15:48:56 Roland Perry (%mail)wrote: in
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In message . li, at
13:39:03 on Fri, 31 Jul 2009, Tom Anderson
remarked:
The airspace here would seem to be reasonably "high value".


At the moment, it's got a rubbish bar on top of it; it wouldn't
seem to be particularly high-value just yet. Doubtless, as King's
Cross becomes more desirable, it will.


It's a bit (metaphorically) low-rent around there at the moment. One
of the cheapest Travelodges overlooks the station. And much of the
rest of the area is alleyways and the backs of Victorian terraces.


A little bit north of there, and a bit west too is the lovely shiny
King's Place development - see http://www.kingsplace.co.uk for details.
Gallery, concert hall, bar and cafe overlooking the canal basin.

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On 31 July, 20:58, " Richard Hunt" wrote:
It's a bit (metaphorically) low-rent around there at the moment. One
of the cheapest Travelodges overlooks the station. And much of the
rest of the area is alleyways and the backs of Victorian terraces.


A little bit north of there, and a bit west too is the lovely shiny
King's Place development - seehttp://www.kingsplace.co.ukfor details.
Gallery, concert hall, bar and cafe overlooking the canal basin.


The former surface station would be a great spot to build housing (and
still allowing a narrower frontage for an emergency tube exit). "low-
rent" from a building isn't something that landlords would be too
worried about if the result of doing nothing is "no rent at all".

There's a wide sub surface walkway to just in front of kings cross
station from the overbridge at the former station, and its currently
disused. I'm sure they could do something useful with that, even if
its just adding a glossy entrance to the lighthouse building so you
don't need to cross that road junction.
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In message
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08:36:43 on Sat, 1 Aug 2009, nospam_lonelytraveller_nospam
remarked:
On 31 July, 20:58, " Richard Hunt" wrote:
It's a bit (metaphorically) low-rent around there at the moment. One
of the cheapest Travelodges overlooks the station. And much of the
rest of the area is alleyways and the backs of Victorian terraces.


A little bit north of there, and a bit west too is the lovely shiny
King's Place development - seehttp://www.kingsplace.co.ukfor details.
Gallery, concert hall, bar and cafe overlooking the canal basin.


The former surface station would be a great spot to build housing (and
still allowing a narrower frontage for an emergency tube exit).


It's useful as a proper tube exit too.

"low- rent" from a building isn't something that landlords would be too
worried about if the result of doing nothing is "no rent at all".


"Low rent" is a metaphor. Other expressions are a bit more anglo saxon.

There's a wide sub surface walkway to just in front of kings cross
station from the overbridge at the former station, and its currently
disused.


Isn't that the tunnel which will be the main passageway from the
northern ticket hall to the Piccadilly and Victoria Line platforms.
See the sections near the "5" marks he

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