On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:56:35 +0100, "Recliner"
wrote:
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:45:32 +0100
"Recliner" wrote:
Yes, that's a very good point. Imagine if every house in the street
was charging its electric car(s) overnight -- it's pretty unlikely
that the local sub-station and wiring could handle the load. It may
be OK if just one or two houses use 13amp sockets, but not if the
whole street is doing it for hours on end.

Also I wonder how many house fires they might end up causing if a few
hundred amps is put through ancient wiring for 12 hours without a
break.

I think the car needs no more than 13 amps from a 240v domestic supply
for eight hours for a full charge, or can be charged very much more
quickly using a 400v 3-phase supply (not available in many houses, of
course). So individual houses may be OK charging one electric car, but
the neighbourhood supply may run out of juice if they're all doing it at
once.


... which is why a charging infrastructure will be put in place. The
first scheme, in London, is being finalised.

Not only will electric cars save CO2, but there will be a massive
reduction in other pollutants, notable particulates and oxides of
nitrogen. Many UK cities are already in breach of current legal
limits on those pollutants, and the limits are about to be tightened
further.

So the electric car is the way to go; unlike electrifying the
railways, there will actually be a substantial CO2 benefit.

Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

... which is why a charging infrastructure will be put in place. The
first scheme, in London, is being finalised.

Uh-huh. Capable of supporting how many cars? Please bear in mind that few
people in London are guaranteed a parking space in the immediate vicinity
of their homes.

And why can't these Londoners use the superb public transport in place
across the city, for an even bigger benefit?

Not only will electric cars save CO2

Will it? Where's this electricity coming from, then?

Adrian wrote:
Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

... which is why a charging infrastructure will be put in place. The
first scheme, in London, is being finalised.

Uh-huh. Capable of supporting how many cars? Please bear in mind that few
people in London are guaranteed a parking space in the immediate vicinity
of their homes.

And why can't these Londoners use the superb public transport in place
across the city, for an even bigger benefit?

Not only will electric cars save CO2

Will it? Where's this electricity coming from, then?

Also, if you're saying we should all stop using the Tube and overground
rail for getting around London, where the hell's the road space coming
from? Using London as an example of why rail is unsuitable as a future
transport technology is like using Gordon Ramsay as an example of why
the British can't do cooking.

Tom

On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:19:54 +0100, Tom Barry
wrote:
Also, if you're saying we should all stop using the Tube and overground
rail for getting around London, where the hell's the road space coming
from?


They won't need any more road space than the cars they will be
replacing, so it's a non-problem.

Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Also, if you're saying we should all stop using the Tube and overground
rail for getting around London, where the hell's the road space coming
from?

They won't need any more road space than the cars they will be
replacing, so it's a non-problem.

OK, thank you for confirming you really don't have the slightest clue.

On 12 Aug 2009 15:13:06 GMT, Adrian wrote:
Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Not only will electric cars save CO2

Will it?

Yes, it waill save at least two thirds of the CO2 an equivalent petrol
engined car produces, making it comparable to public transport.


Where's this electricity coming from, then?

From a 13A domestic socket or a dedicated three-phase charging pillar.

Not for you, obviously. You can go on the bus or stew on the Tube. ;-)

Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Not only will electric cars save CO2

Will it?

Yes, it waill save at least two thirds of the CO2 an equivalent petrol
engined car produces, making it comparable to public transport.

Really...?

Where's this electricity coming from, then?

From a 13A domestic socket or a dedicated three-phase charging pillar.

I was thinking about a bit further back in the wiring than the socket.

On 12 Aug 2009 15:30:25 GMT, Adrian wrote:

Where's this electricity coming from, then?

From a 13A domestic socket or a dedicated three-phase charging pillar.

I was thinking about a bit further back in the wiring than the socket.


The problem is, you weren't thinking at all.

Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Where's this electricity coming from, then?

From a 13A domestic socket or a dedicated three-phase charging pillar.

I was thinking about a bit further back in the wiring than the socket.

The problem is, you weren't thinking at all.

I certainly wasn't thinking about magic electricity trees, with an
infinite supply of totally clean and efficient power generation. Were you?

On 12 Aug 2009 15:50:45 GMT, Adrian wrote:
Bruce gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

Where's this electricity coming from, then?

From a 13A domestic socket or a dedicated three-phase charging pillar.

I was thinking about a bit further back in the wiring than the socket.

The problem is, you weren't thinking at all.

I certainly wasn't thinking about magic electricity trees, with an
infinite supply of totally clean and efficient power generation. Were you?


No, you don't think at all. Full stop.