"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54:35PM +0100, David A Stocks wrote:

You can combine a travelcard with a boundary zone ticket (with a
choice of
routing options that include 'any permitted'). This should even work
with a
day travelcard without the requirement for the train to call at a
boundary
zone station (e.g. Gatwock Express) because boundary zone tix are
considered
to be zonal tix.

The Gatwick and Heathrow expresses are exceptions to this rule.

This is wrong. There are two separate tickets from Boundary Zone 6 to
Gatwick Airport, one rte NOT GATWICK EXP and one rte ANY PERMITTED. As
long as you buy the any permitted ticket you can use it on the Gatwick
Express with a Travelcard.

Peter Smyth

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT), martin wrote:

More generally, what kind of National Rail tickets is it possible to
buy from a tube ticket office?
Only tickets to destinations in the NSE area? Further afield? Can I
use a railcard?

You can buy tickets to any station in the NSE area (but not beyond,
AFAIK). Only singles, day returns, and season tickets are available.

At LU-run NR stations, you can use a Railcard when buying an NR-only
ticket (e.g. Amersham to Aylesbury, Greenford to Ealing Broadway via
South Greenford). Otherwise, you can't use a Railcard, except to buy
all-zones one-day Travelcards.

Also, I doubt you can buy tickets with an origin station other than
the one where you're buying the ticket, though I've never tried. I
also doubt that offers like GroupSave are available.

On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Peter Smyth wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54:35PM +0100, David A Stocks wrote:
You can combine a travelcard with a boundary zone ticket (with a
choice of
routing options that include 'any permitted'). This should even work
with a
day travelcard without the requirement for the train to call at a
boundary
zone station (e.g. Gatwock Express) because boundary zone tix are
considered
to be zonal tix.
The Gatwick and Heathrow expresses are exceptions to this rule.
This is wrong. There are two separate tickets from Boundary Zone 6 to
Gatwick Airport, one rte NOT GATWICK EXP and one rte ANY PERMITTED. As
long as you buy the any permitted ticket you can use it on the Gatwick
Express with a Travelcard.

Interesting, thanks. I wonder when it changed then, cos last time I
tried to buy such a ticket, I couldn't.

Oh, wait, I wanted boundary zone *4* to Gatwick, is it only available
from 6?

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"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Peter Smyth wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54:35PM +0100, David A Stocks wrote:
You can combine a travelcard with a boundary zone ticket (with a
choice of
routing options that include 'any permitted'). This should even
work
with a
day travelcard without the requirement for the train to call at a
boundary
zone station (e.g. Gatwock Express) because boundary zone tix are
considered
to be zonal tix.
The Gatwick and Heathrow expresses are exceptions to this rule.
This is wrong. There are two separate tickets from Boundary Zone 6 to
Gatwick Airport, one rte NOT GATWICK EXP and one rte ANY PERMITTED.
As
long as you buy the any permitted ticket you can use it on the
Gatwick
Express with a Travelcard.

Interesting, thanks. I wonder when it changed then, cos last time I
tried to buy such a ticket, I couldn't.

Oh, wait, I wanted boundary zone *4* to Gatwick, is it only available
from 6?

The fares listed in The Manual from boundary zones to Gatwick are

BOUNDARY ZONE 2 or 3
CDR 10.00 NOT GATWICK EXP, 18.60 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 13.60 NOT GATWICK EXP, 26.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 4 or 5
CDR 7.50 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 11.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 6
CDR 6.90 NOT GATWICK EXP, 6.80 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 9.50 NOT GATWICK EXP, 9.30 ANY PERMITTED

The fares for zone 2/3 are about what I would expect but something seems
to have gone wrong with the fares for zones 4-6. So I am not sure
whether it is actually possible to buy a 6.80 Any Permitted CDR from BZ6
to Gatwick or not.

Peter Smyth

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On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Peter Smyth wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
k...
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54:35PM +0100, David A Stocks wrote:
You can combine a travelcard with a boundary zone ticket (with a
choice of
routing options that include 'any permitted'). This should even work
with a
day travelcard without the requirement for the train to call at a
boundary
zone station (e.g. Gatwock Express) because boundary zone tix are
considered
to be zonal tix.
The Gatwick and Heathrow expresses are exceptions to this rule.
This is wrong. There are two separate tickets from Boundary Zone 6 to
Gatwick Airport, one rte NOT GATWICK EXP and one rte ANY PERMITTED. As
long as you buy the any permitted ticket you can use it on the Gatwick
Express with a Travelcard.

Interesting, thanks. I wonder when it changed then, cos last time I
tried to buy such a ticket, I couldn't.

Oh, wait, I wanted boundary zone *4* to Gatwick, is it only available
from 6?

The fares listed in The Manual from boundary zones to Gatwick are

BOUNDARY ZONE 2 or 3
CDR 10.00 NOT GATWICK EXP, 18.60 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 13.60 NOT GATWICK EXP, 26.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 4 or 5
CDR 7.50 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 11.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 6
CDR 6.90 NOT GATWICK EXP, 6.80 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 9.50 NOT GATWICK EXP, 9.30 ANY PERMITTED

The fares for zone 2/3 are about what I would expect but something seems
to have gone wrong with the fares for zones 4-6.

Why? They are in the same ball-park as the equivalent fares from East
Croydon (zone 5) to Gatwick.

DAS

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On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Peter Smyth wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54:35PM +0100, David A Stocks wrote:
You can combine a travelcard with a boundary zone ticket (with a
choice of
routing options that include 'any permitted'). This should even
work
with a
day travelcard without the requirement for the train to call at
a
boundary
zone station (e.g. Gatwock Express) because boundary zone tix
are
considered
to be zonal tix.
The Gatwick and Heathrow expresses are exceptions to this rule.
This is wrong. There are two separate tickets from Boundary Zone 6
to
Gatwick Airport, one rte NOT GATWICK EXP and one rte ANY PERMITTED.
As
long as you buy the any permitted ticket you can use it on the
Gatwick
Express with a Travelcard.

Interesting, thanks. I wonder when it changed then, cos last time I
tried to buy such a ticket, I couldn't.

Oh, wait, I wanted boundary zone *4* to Gatwick, is it only
available
from 6?

The fares listed in The Manual from boundary zones to Gatwick are

BOUNDARY ZONE 2 or 3
CDR 10.00 NOT GATWICK EXP, 18.60 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 13.60 NOT GATWICK EXP, 26.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 4 or 5
CDR 7.50 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 11.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 6
CDR 6.90 NOT GATWICK EXP, 6.80 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 9.50 NOT GATWICK EXP, 9.30 ANY PERMITTED

The fares for zone 2/3 are about what I would expect but something
seems to have gone wrong with the fares for zones 4-6.

Why? They are in the same ball-park as the equivalent fares from East
Croydon (zone 5) to Gatwick.

The strange bit is that the Any Permitted fare (valid on GatEx) is
actually cheaper than the Not Gatwick Exp fare.

Peter Smyth

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"David Cantrell" wrote in message
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On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 06:33:13PM +0100, Peter Smyth wrote:
"David Cantrell" wrote in message
k...
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:54:35PM +0100, David A Stocks wrote:
You can combine a travelcard with a boundary zone ticket (with a
choice of
routing options that include 'any permitted'). This should even
work
with a
day travelcard without the requirement for the train to call at a
boundary
zone station (e.g. Gatwock Express) because boundary zone tix are
considered
to be zonal tix.
The Gatwick and Heathrow expresses are exceptions to this rule.
This is wrong. There are two separate tickets from Boundary Zone 6 to
Gatwick Airport, one rte NOT GATWICK EXP and one rte ANY PERMITTED. As
long as you buy the any permitted ticket you can use it on the Gatwick
Express with a Travelcard.

Interesting, thanks. I wonder when it changed then, cos last time I
tried to buy such a ticket, I couldn't.

Oh, wait, I wanted boundary zone *4* to Gatwick, is it only available
from 6?

The fares listed in The Manual from boundary zones to Gatwick are

BOUNDARY ZONE 2 or 3
CDR 10.00 NOT GATWICK EXP, 18.60 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 13.60 NOT GATWICK EXP, 26.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 4 or 5
CDR 7.50 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 11.20 ANY PERMITTED

BOUNDARY ZONE 6
CDR 6.90 NOT GATWICK EXP, 6.80 ANY PERMITTED
SDR 9.50 NOT GATWICK EXP, 9.30 ANY PERMITTED

The fares for zone 2/3 are about what I would expect but something seems
to have gone wrong with the fares for zones 4-6.

Why? They are in the same ball-park as the equivalent fares from East
Croydon (zone 5) to Gatwick.

The strange bit is that the Any Permitted fare (valid on GatEx) is
actually cheaper than the Not Gatwick Exp fare.

Peter Smyth

It might be because the only routing option available for Boundary Zone
tickets to Three Bridges is Any Permitted, and this effectively caps the Any
Permitted fare to Gatwick??

DAS