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LM penalty fares scheme: New Oyster Bizarrity
On 21 Feb, 15:33, Roy Badami wrote:
Mizter T wrote: Technically speaking touching in even when using an Oyster card loaded with a Travelcard that covers all the required zones is a requirement when using NR. See the "Oyster Conditions of Use on National rail services" (PDF): http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...s-of-carriage-... ---quote--- 3.6 When you use a National Rail service, you should touch your Oyster card on the yellow card reader before you start your journey, at the station you are leaving from; and at the end of your journey, when you arrive at your destinations station. You can still use your Oyster card at stations where there is no yellow card reader or if it is not working provided that your Travelcard is valid for the journey you are making. You may be asked instead to show your Oyster card (and photocard where needed). And for those who are quibbling about 'should' rather than 'must' in the above, I just found the following in the new TfL Conditions of Carriage: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloa...f-carriage.pdf 6.6. Using a season ticket on your Oyster card 6.6.1. When you use Underground, London Overground and National Rail services, you must touch your Oyster card on the yellow card reader (see clause 6.8.) at both the start and the end of your journey. If the ticket gates at stations are open you must still touch your Oyster card on the yellow card reader. You can use the Travelcard season ticket on your Oyster card provided it is available and valid at the time you travel and any pay as you go balance on your Oyster card is not in debit. Should any pay as you go balance on your Oyster card be in debit, you must clear the debit before you use your Travelcard season ticket. Provided that the season ticket on your Oyster card is available and valid at the time you travel, you can still use your Oyster card at stations where there is no yellow card reader or if it is not working. You may be asked instead to show your Oyster card (and photocard where needed). and 6.6.7. When you use a bus, you must touch your Oyster card on the yellow card reader (see clause 6.8.) as you board the bus. If you board the bus without having touched your Oyster card on the yellow card reader or having paid a cash single fare, you may be liable to a Penalty fare or you may be prosecuted. Special arrangements apply if you are accompanying a wheelchair user (see clause 13.2.1.) and to users of double buggies (see clause 13.2.5.). If the bus has a conductor, when asked, you must touch your Oyster card on the yellow card reader on his/her ticket machine. If the yellow card reader on a bus or a conductor’s ticket machine is not working, you must show your Oyster card to the driver or conductor. I haven't read anything into the "should" and "must", but I am convinced that there can't be any intention of penalty-faring anyone who has a valid travelcard within their zones. It must be to encourage people to be in the habit. But I look forward to the court case with glee. However, the bus bit is completely bonkers, seeing as you can't extend a bus journey beyond the travelcard availability. |
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