On May 25, 3:00 am, Mizter T wrote:

On May 25, 10:41 am, CJB wrote:

The Richmond Stratford Overground looks as though it ought to
continue towards Woolwich. Actually it id a few years ago. But what's
happened to the route since?


The North London Line ran through to North Woolwich until December
'06. The alignment between Canning Town and Stratford has been taken
over by the DLR - iit'll have three new stations in addition to a new
terminus station at Stratford International, next to the new
highspeed / Eurostar station. This is due to open later this year.


Info here (PDF);
http://developments.dlr.co.uk/extensions/stratford/index.asp



The logic of cutting back the NLL to Stratford and replacing it with
a
DLR extension is lost on me. It would have been better IMHO to have
just converted the Silvertown stretch to Light Rail and extended the
NLL under the Thames close to Angerstein Wharf for onward connection
to the SLL.


Also what has happened to all the exhibits that used to be at that
rather nice railway museum based in Woolwich Station?


No idea.



Pity, because the museum would have added a nice touch to the
Docklands
development.

On May 25, 7:05 pm, E27002 wrote:
[snip]
The logic of cutting back the NLL to Stratford and replacing it with
a DLR extension is lost on me. It would have been better IMHO to
have just converted the Silvertown stretch to Light Rail [...]

But the DLR *is* light rail!!! (The clue's in the name!)

At the end the NLL service to North Woolwich was half-hourly (unlike
every 15 mins west of Stratford - i.e. one in two trains turned back
at Stratford). The DLR extension to Woolwich Arsenal via City Airport
serves Silvertown and North Woolwich far better than the NLL ever did
(and the DLR Beckton branch serves Custom House). The old NLL
alignment from Canning Town up to Stratford will get a far better
service under the DLR too, along with three new stations at Star Lane,
Abbey Road and Stratford High Street.

The alignment from Canning Town eastwards to North Woolwich is
reserved for Crossrail (the Abbey Wood via Canary Wharf branch).

[...] and extended the
NLL under the Thames close to Angerstein Wharf for onward connection
to the SLL.

Also what has happened to all the exhibits that used to be at that
rather nice railway museum based in Woolwich Station?
No idea.

Pity, because the museum would have added a nice touch to the
Docklands development.

The somewhat oddly named "Museum In Docklands", part of the Museum of
London, is well worth a visit

"Mizter T" wrote in message
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On May 25, 7:05 pm, E27002 wrote:
[snip]
The logic of cutting back the NLL to Stratford and replacing it with
a DLR extension is lost on me. It would have been better IMHO to
have just converted the Silvertown stretch to Light Rail [...]

But the DLR *is* light rail!!! (The clue's in the name!)

At the end the NLL service to North Woolwich was half-hourly (unlike
every 15 mins west of Stratford - i.e. one in two trains turned back
at Stratford). The DLR extension to Woolwich Arsenal via City Airport
serves Silvertown and North Woolwich far better than the NLL ever did
(and the DLR Beckton branch serves Custom House). The old NLL
alignment from Canning Town up to Stratford will get a far better
service under the DLR too, along with three new stations at Star Lane,
Abbey Road and Stratford High Street.

The alignment from Canning Town eastwards to North Woolwich is
reserved for Crossrail (the Abbey Wood via Canary Wharf branch).

I can't help thinking that this was all discussed to death prior to the
closure - it was effectively an agreed handover of the NLL tail end because
the DLR proposals were better all round - particularly for the airport. But
all that is ancient history - all the alternative project options for the
area used to be on the TfL website, but no sign of them now. I don't think
E27002's kite is going to fly...

Paul S

On 25 May, 22:17, "Paul Scott" wrote:

I can't help thinking that this was all discussed to death prior to the
closure - it was effectively an agreed handover of the NLL tail end because
the DLR proposals were better all round - particularly for the airport. *But
all that is ancient history - all the alternative project options for the
area used to be on the TfL website, but no sign of them now. *I don't think
E27002's kite is going to fly...

Paul S

The DLR certainly serves the Airport better than Silvertown station
did, and to be honest there's not much at North Woolwich other than
the tunnel and the ferry, and if you want to get to the other side
then you might as well stay on the DLR.

Stephen Furley wrote:

The DLR certainly serves the Airport better than Silvertown station
did, and to be honest there's not much at North Woolwich other than
the tunnel and the ferry, and if you want to get to the other side
then you might as well stay on the DLR.

North Woolwich has a sizeable and growing residential community - about
fourteen months ago I spent a lot of time down there for a council
by-election and saw the DLR in heavy use.

Silvertown station isn't actually that far from London City Airport's
terminal as the crow flies but the route between them is along a residential
street (plus some walking about within the airport itself) and it was
utterly unsuitable for anyone hauling luggage. Throw in the half-hourly
service on a single track and no amount of rebranding and signposting the
station as "Silvertown for London City Airport" was going to get air
passengers using it much.