On 2 June, 18:56, Martin Petrov
wrote:
Shame that only 3 cars are
still in use, I guess despite - or probably because of this work, the
crush loadings I have seen at West Hampstead will be back !

I believe the plan will be for 4 cars to be in operation (with more
regular trains) from Spring next year, so there is at least an end in
sight. I used to regularly use the NLL from Hackney Central to Highbury
in the morning (and the return trip in the evening) and it was no picnic.
At least the new cars have more space (even if less seats etc) - though
apparently once the 4 car operation starts next year, there'll still be
more seats than on an old school 3 car formation, and acres more of
standing room.

Little anecdote: there were some London Overground bods on the train
today. A passenger asked why aren't there any "priority" seat signage.
The LO person, went well we'll look into it, but I was right next to
them and said "There's a sign opposite."

On 2 June, 19:32, Stephen Furley wrote:
On 2 June, 17:40, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

Actually W Croydon does have a roundel around the side entrance,
fronting the Sutton platform:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...t_Croydon_stn_....

But not at the main entrance, I haven't looked? *That would be odd,
isn't this side entrance normally closed? *It was in use last weekend
to provide quick access to the replacement bus service to Sutton etc.

The main entrance on Sunday 23rd:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...lding_2010.JPG

I honestly don't know the policy regarding the side entrance.
Sometimes it's open at weekends. I took the picture I showed you in
the previous message on Sunday 30th. It was open that day too.
It was also open on a Sunday round about Christmas 2009, with the old
Southern signage:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...e_entrance.JPG

On Jun 2, 11:14*am, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:
On 1 June, 17:42, Paul Corfield wrote:

I have had a trundle up and down the revamped section today. I would
say that Highbury is well worth a look. The extent of change is quite
amazing plus there are lots of 2011/2012 signs not yet covered over!

This was probably the surprise of the day:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...hbury_%26_Isli....

But no Surrey Canal??

Outstanding if premature! One will be able to circumnavigate New Troy
(London) with one change!

On 2 June, 19:36, E27002 wrote:
On Jun 2, 11:13*am, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:



On 2 June, 17:40, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

On 2 June, 17:06, E27002 wrote:

On Jun 2, 6:56*am, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

On 1 June, 20:28, Paul Corfield wrote:

Photos are still loading up but most of them are there at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24759744@N02/

Paul Corfield

You beat me to it! I was waiting for better weather - did your camera
get wet? LOL

Still very nice images indeed. I took some this morning, still
uploading them to Wikimedia Commons. Here are my shots of Canonbury
(feed will be updated with Highbury and Caledonian Road some time
today!):

http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSe...ifam=commons.w...

Thank you for the link to your pictures Dr. *They help give a feel for
the changes. *When I first travelled on the NLL in the 1960s I never
thought to live to see this sort of renewal. *Canonbury is especially
striking.

West Croydon Station does not appear to have an Overground Roundel
outside.

You're welcome! I will try and get the H & I and Caledonian pictures
up this evening. I guess Paul's cloudy day pictures might be better
due to lack of shadows/glare but it was such a nice day today!

Actually W Croydon does have a roundel around the side entrance,
fronting the Sutton platform:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...t_Croydon_stn_...

Highbury pics now uploaded - I didn't take a shot of the exit, I
actually spent a full 15 minutes taking the other pics and the next
westbound train arrived just as I was entered the concourse! Has the
exit signage changed at all?

http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSe...ifam=commons.w....

Thanks again Dr. *I notice the presence of a fourth rail, sans
conductors, on the ELL tracks.

I thought so too, but it could just be spare track lying around. There
is no ELL fourth track (ie. the elevated section and former LU
section), which point against that. Incidentally, is the current
return thing a problem on the LU section?

On Jun 2, 11:46*am, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:
On 2 June, 19:36, E27002 wrote:





On Jun 2, 11:13*am, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

On 2 June, 17:40, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

On 2 June, 17:06, E27002 wrote:

On Jun 2, 6:56*am, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

On 1 June, 20:28, Paul Corfield wrote:

Photos are still loading up but most of them are there at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24759744@N02/

Paul Corfield

You beat me to it! I was waiting for better weather - did your camera
get wet? LOL

Still very nice images indeed. I took some this morning, still
uploading them to Wikimedia Commons. Here are my shots of Canonbury
(feed will be updated with Highbury and Caledonian Road some time
today!):

http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSe...ifam=commons.w...

Thank you for the link to your pictures Dr. *They help give a feel for
the changes. *When I first travelled on the NLL in the 1960s I never
thought to live to see this sort of renewal. *Canonbury is especially
striking.

West Croydon Station does not appear to have an Overground Roundel
outside.

You're welcome! I will try and get the H & I and Caledonian pictures
up this evening. I guess Paul's cloudy day pictures might be better
due to lack of shadows/glare but it was such a nice day today!

Actually W Croydon does have a roundel around the side entrance,
fronting the Sutton platform:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...t_Croydon_stn_...

Highbury pics now uploaded - I didn't take a shot of the exit, I
actually spent a full 15 minutes taking the other pics and the next
westbound train arrived just as I was entered the concourse! Has the
exit signage changed at all?

http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSe...ifam=commons.w...

Thanks again Dr. *I notice the presence of a fourth rail, sans
conductors, on the ELL tracks.

I thought so too, but it could just be spare track lying around. There
is no ELL fourth track (ie. the elevated section and former LU
section), which point against that. Incidentally, is the current
return thing a problem on the LU section?

IIRC the current return issue is more serious on the deep level tubes
built of iron (?) segements. The Brunel tunnel on the ELL is
brickwork.

"E27002" wrote

IIRC the current return issue is more serious on the deep level tubes
built of iron (?) segements. The Brunel tunnel on the ELL is
brickwork.

Could there be issues with current return between Highbury & Islington and
Dalston Junction, because of the proximity of the 25 kV NLL?

Peter

On 02/06/2010 19:41, Dr. Sunil wrote:
On 2 June, 19:32, Stephen wrote:
On 2 June, 17:40, "Dr. wrote:

Actually W Croydon does have a roundel around the side entrance,
fronting the Sutton platform:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...t_Croydon_stn_...

But not at the main entrance, I haven't looked? That would be odd,
isn't this side entrance normally closed? It was in use last weekend
to provide quick access to the replacement bus service to Sutton etc.

The main entrance on Sunday 23rd:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...lding_2010.JPG

I honestly don't know the policy regarding the side entrance.
Sometimes it's open at weekends. I took the picture I showed you in
the previous message on Sunday 30th. It was open that day too.
It was also open on a Sunday round about Christmas 2009, with the old
Southern signage:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...e_entrance.JPG

I've never seen the side door open except when there are replacement
buses running from West Croydon. In that shot you can just see (on the
bottom right of the door) the side of the leaning sign board which no
doubt says something to the effect of "rail replacement buses this way
---".

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On 2 June, 19:37, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

Little anecdote: there were some London Overground bods on the train
today. A passenger asked why aren't there any "priority" seat signage.
The LO person, went *well we'll look into it, but I was right next to
them and said "There's a sign opposite."

I noticed that some of the seats were a different colour, less orange
and more grey/brown, but I couldn't work out why. I first noticed it
when I was using the West London to get to Shepherds Bush about a
month ago. It was only last Saturday that I noticed the small blue
priority seating notices above each one.

On 2 June, 19:41, "Dr. Sunil" wrote:

I honestly don't know the policy regarding the side entrance.
Sometimes it's open at weekends. I took the picture I showed you in
the previous message on Sunday 30th. It was open that day too.
It was also open on a Sunday round about Christmas 2009, with the old
Southern signage:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi..._side_entrance...

The car spares place near that entrance is the previous station
building, the second I believe, but I don't know where the first one
was. Some years ago it was possible to see into a disused room, if I
remember correctly I think a window or door was broken, and the
remains of an old Southern `Railway poster about saving gas could be
seen.

More recently there was talk of re-opening an entrance on that side of
the station for interchange with Tramlink.

Dr. Sunil wrote:

Actually W Croydon does have a roundel around the side entrance,
fronting the Sutton platform:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...nc e_2010.JPG

Is that side entrance ever going to be used again? It would be so much more
logical for interchange with the tram and bus.