On Jul 30, 5:18*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On Jul 30, 4:54*pm, MIG wrote:



On 30 July, 15:07, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 30, 2:28*pm, wrote:

If it's not practical to provide East London Line service to [Lewisham],
how about he suggestion I made previously to e-open [Brockley] Lane
station, so at least it could be reached by one change there?

In terms of any cost-benefit analysis, the possible re-opening of
Brockley Lane wouldn't come in anywhere even remotely near the top of
a 'dream schemes' list for transport improvements in London I'm
afraid.

Somewhat further up that hypothetical list would be an improvement to
the half-hourly Victoria-Dartford service that uses that line -
currently it's Mon-Sat only, ends early at around 8pm (and starts a
little late too).

Those heading to Lewisham can also use the bus from either NX or NXG
to get there, or if coming from points north on the ELL could switch
to the DLR at Shadwell for Lewisham.

Opening a station at Brixton on that route would be more useful, but
also ain't gonna happen.

Well quite - a high-level Brixton station (on the Atlantic / South
London line) would be rather higher up that hypothetical wish list,
but it wasn't really on the agenda during the supposed times of plenty
so it ain't got much chance of happening any time soon.

(Though the sight of four London Overground ELL trains an hour
floating over Brixton might provide a small degree of impetus to the
idea that a station there - serving both ELL and Vic-Dartford trains -
might be a good idea. The problem is the large degree of dosh that
would be needed to make it happen. Oh well.)


An improved service on the lewisham line via peckham rye that stopped
at Clapham high street / Clapham North would be higher up my personal
wishlist.

At the moment, getting from Lewisham to Tooting just seem
conspiratorially difficult.

The Dartford-Victoria via Lewisham service only runs every half hour,
and you can change at Peckham Rye, only for the Sutton trains from
London bridge to non-stop there a few minutes later. I don't
understand why some journeys of only a few miles need to be so
difficult.

BTN

On 3 Aug, 12:10, SirBenjamin wrote:
On Jul 30, 5:18*pm, Mizter T wrote:



On Jul 30, 4:54*pm, MIG wrote:

On 30 July, 15:07, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 30, 2:28*pm, wrote:

If it's not practical to provide East London Line service to [Lewisham],
how about he suggestion I made previously to e-open [Brockley] Lane
station, so at least it could be reached by one change there?

In terms of any cost-benefit analysis, the possible re-opening of
Brockley Lane wouldn't come in anywhere even remotely near the top of
a 'dream schemes' list for transport improvements in London I'm
afraid.

Somewhat further up that hypothetical list would be an improvement to
the half-hourly Victoria-Dartford service that uses that line -
currently it's Mon-Sat only, ends early at around 8pm (and starts a
little late too).

Those heading to Lewisham can also use the bus from either NX or NXG
to get there, or if coming from points north on the ELL could switch
to the DLR at Shadwell for Lewisham.

Opening a station at Brixton on that route would be more useful, but
also ain't gonna happen.

Well quite - a high-level Brixton station (on the Atlantic / South
London line) would be rather higher up that hypothetical wish list,
but it wasn't really on the agenda during the supposed times of plenty
so it ain't got much chance of happening any time soon.

(Though the sight of four London Overground ELL trains an hour
floating over Brixton might provide a small degree of impetus to the
idea that a station there - serving both ELL and Vic-Dartford trains -
might be a good idea. The problem is the large degree of dosh that
would be needed to make it happen. Oh well.)

An improved service on the lewisham line via peckham rye that stopped
at Clapham high street / Clapham North would be higher up my personal
wishlist.

At the moment, getting from Lewisham to Tooting just seem
conspiratorially difficult.

The Dartford-Victoria via Lewisham service only runs every half hour,
and you can change at Peckham Rye, only for the Sutton trains from
London bridge to non-stop there a few minutes later. I don't
understand why some journeys of only a few miles need to be so
difficult.

BTN

There were platforms at Wandsworth Road on the Southeastern tracks.
They closed in 1916.

On Aug 3, 12:10*pm, SirBenjamin wrote:

On Jul 30, 5:18*pm, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 30, 4:54*pm, MIG wrote:

On 30 July, 15:07, Mizter T wrote:

On Jul 30, 2:28*pm, wrote:

If it's not practical to provide East London Line service to [Lewisham],
how about he suggestion I made previously to e-open [Brockley] Lane
station, so at least it could be reached by one change there?

In terms of any cost-benefit analysis, the possible re-opening of
Brockley Lane wouldn't come in anywhere even remotely near the top of
a 'dream schemes' list for transport improvements in London I'm
afraid.

Somewhat further up that hypothetical list would be an improvement to
the half-hourly Victoria-Dartford service that uses that line -
currently it's Mon-Sat only, ends early at around 8pm (and starts a
little late too).

Those heading to Lewisham can also use the bus from either NX or NXG
to get there, or if coming from points north on the ELL could switch
to the DLR at Shadwell for Lewisham.

Opening a station at Brixton on that route would be more useful, but
also ain't gonna happen.

Well quite - a high-level Brixton station (on the Atlantic / South
London line) would be rather higher up that hypothetical wish list,
but it wasn't really on the agenda during the supposed times of plenty
so it ain't got much chance of happening any time soon.

(Though the sight of four London Overground ELL trains an hour
floating over Brixton might provide a small degree of impetus to the
idea that a station there - serving both ELL and Vic-Dartford trains -
might be a good idea. The problem is the large degree of dosh that
would be needed to make it happen. Oh well.)

An improved service on the lewisham line via peckham rye that stopped
at Clapham high street / Clapham North would be higher up my personal
wishlist.

It'd be great, yes - it's (remotely) possible that the Dartford-
Victoria (via Lewisham) trains might also stop at Clapham High Street
and Wandsworth Rd when the South London Line (Victoria-London Bridge)
service is withdrawn (and ELLX phase 2 to Clapham Junction starts).


At the moment, getting from Lewisham to Tooting just seem
conspiratorially difficult.

It's a bit of a *******, no doubt.


The Dartford-Victoria via Lewisham service only runs every half hour,
and you can change at Peckham Rye, only for the Sutton trains from
London bridge to non-stop there a few minutes later. I don't
understand why some journeys of only a few miles need to be so
difficult.

Well, there's Lewisham to Denmark Hill (on the aforementioned
Southeastern service), then the South London Line from Denmark Hill
(same platform) to Clapham High Street, then the Northern line from
Clapham North. Under the current timetable, from Lewisham to Clapham
HS the connection at Denmark Hill is good - just five minutes wait on
the same platform for the SLL train (that's *if* things are all
running to time - but if the train from Lewisham is late, the half-
hourly SLL connection could well be missed).

Going the other way however it's no good - a wait of over twenty
minutes at Denmark Hill (though I spose it's not the worst place to be
stuck as there's a good pub on top of the station!).

My only other idea was to wonder if you were anywhere near Crofton
Park, and take a train to Elephant & Castle then change for a train to
Tooting - but the timetables aren't friendly to that idea, as there's
a lengthy wait at the Elephant - so lengthy in fact that one journey
planner actually suggests changing at Blackfriars (maybe the planner
knows there's no nice pub at E&C to while away your time at whilst you
wait!).

But otherwise it's the route I'm sure you take - train to London
Bridge, Northern line from there down to Tooting.

(Tried cycling it? It's a good way of dealing with frustrating
journeys such as this one.)