On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:41:37 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote:

Jason wrote:
Purchasing one today says "Your Oyster card should arrive and be ready
for use on or before Sunday, 07 December 2003."

Note the ON or BEFORE apect.

I think they have forgotten to update that since putting the prepay
ticket on sale today - "be ready for use" must imply the weekly or
longer tickets.

Probably right - they should come to u.t.l and listen to us experts
nit-pick their site! ;-)


Cheers,

Jason.

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:35:18 +0000, Kat wrote:
In message , David Walters
writes
What makes you think you can't use prepay now?

Because you can't!

Indeed, I was being dense and missed the bit on the website with
the 5th of Jan listed.

As I've mentioned before, if you load pre-pay now (by accident) you can
either wait until January and use it, or get a refund via CSC

Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard?

David

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:40:42 +0000, Jason wrote:

On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 13:03:37 +0000, Dave Arquati
wrote:

I ordered mine successfully (needed to get a Photocard first though),
and it says you can't use your credit until 4th January.

I'm a bit disappointed you won't be able to use it on buses straight
away though. I guess they're waiting for conductors on Routemaster
routes to be given hand-held readers, otherwise you'd end up receiving a
free trip.

Another thought I had - is there an Oyster reader at each entrance on a
bendybus?

Not at present but a further installation programme is due to add them
at the second and third entrance / exits.

I'd like to know what's going to happen when using WAGN services.
Certain Underground tickets can be used between Seven Sisters,
Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central and the intermediate statins.

If there's no reader at one of these National Rail stations, how do
Oyster know the journey has ended and not charge a zone 1-6 fare?

But you cannot use the tickets at any intermediate station as I
understand matters. You will note at Walthamstow Central that the
validators have been installed at the entrances to both WAGN platforms.
They do need to be connected to power and data cables so I would imagine
this will happen shortly. Haven't looked at Tottenham Hale or Seven
Sisters but I'd imagine there would only be an interchange validator at
Seven Sisters as the street entrance is gated; Tottenham Hale will need
something separate for the WAGN area.

--
Paul C
Admits to Working for London Underground!

In message , Jason
writes
I'd like to know what's going to happen when using WAGN services.
Certain Underground tickets can be used between Seven Sisters,
Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central and the intermediate statins.

If there's no reader at one of these National Rail stations, how do
Oyster know the journey has ended and not charge a zone 1-6 fare?

Tottenham Hale and Walthamstow Central (and others) will allow out of
station interchanges within 15 minutes and will automatically recognise
that this is an interchange so a HHC will display original station and
final exit to your journey.
--
Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them.

In message , David Walters
writes
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:35:18 +0000, Kat wrote:
In message , David Walters
writes
What makes you think you can't use prepay now?

Because you can't!

Indeed, I was being dense and missed the bit on the website with
the 5th of Jan listed.

As I've mentioned before, if you load pre-pay now (by accident) you can
either wait until January and use it, or get a refund via CSC

Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard?

I wonder why you say "no longer"
AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until
January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day
T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster.
--
Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them.

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote:
Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard?

I wonder why you say "no longer"
AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until
January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day
T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster.

I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems
you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's
a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions
or carrying change.

David

In message , David Walters
writes
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote:
Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard?

I wonder why you say "no longer"
AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until
January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day
T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster.

I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems
you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's
a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions
or carrying change.

I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be
testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that
at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why
they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet.
--
Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them.

Kat wrote:

In message , David Walters
writes
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote:
Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard?

I wonder why you say "no longer"
AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until
January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day
T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster.

I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems
you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's
a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions
or carrying change.

I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be
testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that
at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why
they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet.

I think he means (and I have seen it too), that you can buy a paper
ticket from the machine, and when you get to the payment screen, you can
insert coins, notes, cards OR you can have the amount lifted from your
Oyster (if it has a wedge of cash topped up on it already).

"Kat" wrote in message
...
In message , David Walters
writes
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat
wrote:
Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your
Oystercard?

I wonder why you say "no longer"
AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until
January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day
T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster.

I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems
you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's
a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions
or carrying change.

I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be
testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that
at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why
they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet.

What we have here is a failure to comunicate... What (I think) we're talking
about is; walking up to a ticket machine, selecting your ticket and paying
for it by placing you oyster on the card reader. The cost of the ticket is
deducted from your oyster and a paper ticket is issued. It is simply using
the oyster as an electronic wallet, none of the higher functions.
--
Cheers, Steve.
If The Good Lord had meant for us to be fiscally prudent, He would not have
given us the platinum credit card...
Change colour to PC Plod's lights to reply.

In message , Dave Newt
writes
Kat wrote:

In message , David Walters
writes
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:03:37 +0000, Kat wrote:
Can you no longer buy single tickets with the credit on your Oystercard?

I wonder why you say "no longer"
AFAIK you've never been able to in the past and won't be able to until
January 04 even if you've loaded money into the Prepay slot of a 7 Day
T/C or Season Ticket on Oyster.

I've done it several dozen times with a monthly oyster and it seems
you can still do so (having had a look this evening). For me it's
a lot less hassle than having lots of small credit card transactions
or carrying change.

I can only think that you must be using one of the stations that may be
testing out the system at present. It's certainly not working like that
at my station; I've had a few disgruntled customers wondering why
they've put money on their Prepay and can't use it yet.

I think he means (and I have seen it too), that you can buy a paper
ticket from the machine, and when you get to the payment screen, you can
insert coins, notes, cards OR you can have the amount lifted from your
Oyster (if it has a wedge of cash topped up on it already).

Yes, I know the option to do that appears on the screen but when you
*actually* try to use it, it will say that it's not available.
If he has bought a paper ticket using Prepay on Oyster then I think it
must be a trial at certain stations only.
--
Kat Frogs have it easy. They can eat what bugs them.