On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 01:26:31PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

Heathrow is not easy to get to, but this is a very pessimistic view, and
a not very optimal way to travel if you are on business. For leisure
purposes time doesn't matter so much, of course.

When I'm on holiday, time matters far *more* than when I'm working.
That's because when I'm on holiday it's *my* time, whereas when I'm
working it's mty *employer's* time.

However, comfort and sanity are also very important, which is why I
refuse to fly for short journeys. And I consider journeys to, say,
Vienna or Rome to be short.

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In message , at 14:43:09
on Fri, 15 Oct 2010, David Cantrell remarked:
On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 01:26:31PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:

Heathrow is not easy to get to, but this is a very pessimistic view, and
a not very optimal way to travel if you are on business. For leisure
purposes time doesn't matter so much, of course.

When I'm on holiday, time matters far *more* than when I'm working.
That's because when I'm on holiday it's *my* time, whereas when I'm
working it's mty *employer's* time.

That a rather depends whether you get overtime.

However, comfort and sanity are also very important, which is why I
refuse to fly for short journeys. And I consider journeys to, say,
Vienna or Rome to be short.

14hrs and 19hrs (overnight too). That's not what I'd call short
--
Roland Perry

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 03:54:22PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:43:09
on Fri, 15 Oct 2010, David Cantrell remarked:
However, comfort and sanity are also very important, which is why I
refuse to fly for short journeys. And I consider journeys to, say,
Vienna or Rome to be short.
14hrs and 19hrs (overnight too). That's not what I'd call short

An awful lot of that time is spent asleep so doesn't really count. It's
"dead time" whether you spend it on a train or at home.

Last time I took the train to Vienna, I planned it so that I got to
Paris in time to have a late dinner with friends there, to Munich the
next morning to meet a friend for breakfast and beer, and then arriving
in Vienna for lunch. Coming back the other way, I stopped off overnight
in Zurich to, again, visit friends, and also because there was a show on
at the Kunsthaus I wanted to see.

The line between Vienna and Zurich is *very* pretty, and I strongly
recommend doing it one day.

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In message , at 12:28:40
on Mon, 18 Oct 2010, David Cantrell remarked:
However, comfort and sanity are also very important, which is why I
refuse to fly for short journeys. And I consider journeys to, say,
Vienna or Rome to be short.
14hrs and 19hrs (overnight too). That's not what I'd call short

An awful lot of that time is spent asleep so doesn't really count.

So you use sleeper trains?

It's "dead time" whether you spend it on a train or at home.

It's still time away from home and family, and while I sleep 8+ hours a
night, there's plenty to do late at night and early in the morning
(getting the kids settled down for the night, then off to school, for
example).

Last time I took the train to Vienna, I planned it so that I got to
Paris in time to have a late dinner with friends there, to Munich the
next morning to meet a friend for breakfast and beer, and then arriving
in Vienna for lunch. Coming back the other way, I stopped off overnight
in Zurich to, again, visit friends, and also because there was a show on
at the Kunsthaus I wanted to see.

The line between Vienna and Zurich is *very* pretty, and I strongly
recommend doing it one day.

This sounds like a holiday. I mainly travel on business.
--
Roland Perry

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 03:58:37PM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:28:40
on Mon, 18 Oct 2010, David Cantrell remarked:
However, comfort and sanity are also very important, which is why I
refuse to fly for short journeys. And I consider journeys to, say,
Vienna or Rome to be short.
14hrs and 19hrs (overnight too). That's not what I'd call short
An awful lot of that time is spent asleep so doesn't really count.
So you use sleeper trains?

Yup. They're very convenient.

The line between Vienna and Zurich is *very* pretty, and I strongly
recommend doing it one day.
This sounds like a holiday. I mainly travel on business.

It was both. I was going to a conference in Vienna. My journey out
there had me away from work for just as much time as it would if I'd
flown. The difference is that instead of going home after work and
then flying out the next morning, I went straight to the station after
work. The journey back likewise - the conference ended on a Friday,
and I was back at work on the Monday, and my employer obviously didn't
care whether I spent the weekend in London or Zurich.

The primary reason for travelling was work, but I made it into a
holiday as well, by making good use of time in ways that simply aren't
practical if you fly.

I *never* travel just on business. If my employer is going to pay for
me to go somewhere, then I will wring as much value out of that as
possible. If they send me to *Birmingham* I'll try to get something
out of it, even if it's only an opportunity to meet up with friends for
a curry or a few pints at the Wellington.

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On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:21:28 +0100
David Cantrell wrote:
I *never* travel just on business. If my employer is going to pay for
me to go somewhere, then I will wring as much value out of that as
possible.

Thats what I always did. It amazes me the number of people who don't however.
We often get people flying over from our US offices for a week and most
of the time they never go anywhere other than our office and the hotel.
You'd think after a 9 hour flight to the largest city in europe they might
be vaguely curious enough to jump on the tube all of 200 metres from the
hotel and go into town for an evening out. But apparently not. *shrug*

B2003