wrote:

These days people use the Internet to check things like train
timetables, and live departure boards. Or so I'm told. Will never
catch on ;-)

Can't you do that on your phone?

Not without a lengthy phonecall to either a busy line or the automatic
service which can't understand speech and which throws a wobbler over any
background noise (especiall screaming brats). It's messy when you have to
rearrange your travel plas due to engineering works.

In article ,
(Tim Roll-Pickering) wrote:

wrote:

These days people use the Internet to check things like train
timetables, and live departure boards. Or so I'm told. Will never
catch on ;-)

Can't you do that on your phone?

Not without a lengthy phonecall to either a busy line or the
automatic service which can't understand speech and which throws a
wobbler over any background noise (especiall screaming brats). It's
messy when you have to rearrange your travel plas due to
engineering works.

My phone has a web browser. Doesn't yours?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 18:33:27
on Sun, 31 Oct 2010, remarked:

My phone has a web browser. Doesn't yours?

My phone has a tiny screen that wouldn't be any use for browsing, even
if I had a data plan to pay for it. It was bought for the in-built
camera, not the extra connectivity.
--
Roland Perry

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 18:33:27 on
Sun, 31 Oct 2010, remarked:

My phone has a web browser. Doesn't yours?

My phone has a tiny screen that wouldn't be any use for browsing, even
if I had a data plan to pay for it. It was bought for the in-built
camera, not the extra connectivity.

Seriously, though, have a go:

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/planner

It's designed for tiny screens. I used to use it on my Sony Ericsson T68i,
which had a 101x80 screen. Even if you haven't got a data plan, it
generates so little traffic that it won't cost you much.

tom

--
Through the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see.

On Nov 1, 9:39*pm, Tom Anderson wrote:

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 18:33:27 on
Sun, 31 Oct 2010, remarked:

My phone has a web browser. Doesn't yours?

My phone has a tiny screen that wouldn't be any use for browsing, even
if I had a data plan to pay for it. It was bought for the in-built
camera, not the extra connectivity.

Seriously, though, have a go:

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/planner

It's designed for tiny screens. I used to use it on my Sony Ericsson T68i,
which had a 101x80 screen. Even if you haven't got a data plan, it
generates so little traffic that it won't cost you much.

Agreed - along with the (perhaps more useful) National Rail wapsite,
replete with useful LDBs, plus the Journey Check wapsites (if the TOC
in question has one).

I have a pretty basic mobile with tiny screen which I use for some
basic browsing - TfL, National Rail and JCheck as mentioned above, BBC
news, weather and sports results, BT phonebook, Google for a few
nuggets of info - worth noting that if you go through a Google search,
Google actually reformats full sized web pages to suit your device -
it can actually work surprisingly well.

Tom Anderson wrote:

Seriously, though, have a go:

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/planner

It's designed for tiny screens. I used to use it on my Sony Ericsson T68i,
which had a 101x80 screen. Even if you haven't got a data plan, it
generates so little traffic that it won't cost you much.

It looks good but I found a major flaw yesterday when trying to use it to
find an alternative route when the Jubilee Line went down. As the site
does't give me the option to specify any journey details I couldn't tell it
to avoid the tube through Bermondsey and show me the alternative routes,
particularly buses.

In message i, at
21:39:35 on Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Tom Anderson
remarked:
Seriously, though, have a go:

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/planner

It's designed for tiny screens. I used to use it on my Sony Ericsson
T68i, which had a 101x80 screen. Even if you haven't got a data plan,
it generates so little traffic that it won't cost you much.

I gave it a try earlier today. The thing which defeated me was finding a
key to press with the "enter" or "send" function. So having got to the
right enquiry page, and typed in a station name, I was stranded with no
obvious way forward. (I'm sure it's obvious to others... please tell
me!)

Examination of my online bill shows that this lack of completed enquiry
cost me 30p.
--
Roland Perry

In message of Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:54:47 in
uk.transport.london, Roland Perry writes
In message i, at
21:39:35 on Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Tom Anderson
remarked:
Seriously, though, have a go:

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/planner

It's designed for tiny screens. I used to use it on my Sony Ericsson
T68i, which had a 101x80 screen. Even if you haven't got a data plan,
it generates so little traffic that it won't cost you much.

I gave it a try earlier today. The thing which defeated me was finding
a key to press with the "enter" or "send" function. So having got to
the right enquiry page, and typed in a station name, I was stranded
with no obvious way forward. (I'm sure it's obvious to others... please
tell me!)

Examination of my online bill shows that this lack of completed enquiry
cost me 30p.

Underneath "Full post code, stop or station",
On the left, I see a box to complete and to its right, there is a "Find"
button.
What did you see?
You can also connect from your regular PC to see how it should work.
--
Walter Briscoe

In message , at 21:25:27 on Tue, 2
Nov 2010, Walter Briscoe remarked:
I gave it a try earlier today. The thing which defeated me was finding
a key to press with the "enter" or "send" function. So having got to
the right enquiry page, and typed in a station name, I was stranded
with no obvious way forward. (I'm sure it's obvious to others... please
tell me!)

Examination of my online bill shows that this lack of completed enquiry
cost me 30p.

The good news is that 30p is apparently for "unlimited web access all
day". So something good has come out of this episode; that's something I
will definitely use more often.

Underneath "Full post code, stop or station",
On the left, I see a box to complete and to its right, there is a "Find"
button.

What did you see?

Sorry, I was misremembering. I couldn't get the wap.tfl thing typed in
properly (screen too small without my glasses!) So I was using a
bookmark for wap.nationalrail.co.uk which I found to my surprise on the
phone (I must have tried it before).

On my PC, wap.nationalrail.co.uk auto-redirects to the wap.tfl site, but
on my phone ends up with a four-line menu, with no means to select which
menu line I want. The screen is almost completely a white background
with no soft-buttons showing.

But it's probably a red herring, because now I have managed to type in
the wap.tfl url.

That has the "Find" button and a soft-menu for "Select". And I can move
the focus to the "Find" button using the cursor keys, but this is
hampered by the fact that the "Find" button isn't highlighted in any
when when it has the focus on it (you can only tell because the focus is
missing elsewhere on the screen).

--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 2 Nov 2010, Roland Perry wrote:

In message i, at 21:39:35
on Mon, 1 Nov 2010, Tom Anderson remarked:

Seriously, though, have a go:

http://wap.tfl.gov.uk/planner

It's designed for tiny screens. I used to use it on my Sony Ericsson
T68i, which had a 101x80 screen. Even if you haven't got a data plan,
it generates so little traffic that it won't cost you much.

I gave it a try earlier today. The thing which defeated me was finding a
key to press with the "enter" or "send" function. So having got to the
right enquiry page, and typed in a station name, I was stranded with no
obvious way forward. (I'm sure it's obvious to others... please tell
me!)

I tentatively guess that you have a couple of so-called 'soft keys'
underneath the screen, somewhere near your call and hang up buttons. Each
of those will correspond to some kind of action on the page; this should
be displayed on the screen. What kind of phone do you have?

Examination of my online bill shows that this lack of completed enquiry cost
me 30p.

Yeah, that's not ideal value.

tom

--
life finds a way