I've got a mystery £6 "operational issue" credit, and a £5 top-up (so
that it activates online journey history) to pick up tomorrow. Will they
both leap aboard in one swipe?

And where is St Pancras (National Rail) - is that any of the KX/StP tube
barriers, or only the ones at the western ticket hall?
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
I've got a mystery £6 "operational issue" credit, and a £5 top-up (so that
it activates online journey history) to pick up tomorrow. Will they both
leap aboard in one swipe?

And where is St Pancras (National Rail) - is that any of the KX/StP tube
barriers, or only the ones at the western ticket hall?

That'll be one of the NR gatelines at St Pancras surely - which isn't much
use as you'll probably arrive on, or leave on an EMT train? I suspect you
might have to make a Thameslink journey from the low level station to pick
up your credits.

If I had a credit due I'd have a similar decision to make about Waterloo,
because I always arrive on a through ticket from outside the zones, so I'd
probably choose the Jubilee line.

At KX/St P there seem to be three separate LU barrier lines, Met/Circle/H&C,
Northern and Picc/Vic (they may have different names on printouts though).
Then there are the two NR, one for Kings Cross and one for St Pancras. All
5 have OSIs with each other (and Euston).

Paul S

In message , at 17:59:03 on
Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Paul Scott remarked:
"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
I've got a mystery £6 "operational issue" credit, and a £5 top-up (so
that it activates online journey history) to pick up tomorrow. Will
they both leap aboard in one swipe?

And where is St Pancras (National Rail) - is that any of the KX/StP
tube barriers, or only the ones at the western ticket hall?

That'll be one of the NR gatelines at St Pancras surely - which isn't
much use as you'll probably arrive on, or leave on an EMT train? I
suspect you might have to make a Thameslink journey from the low level
station to pick up your credits.

I've been having second thoughts about selecting St Pancras - but it was
the only entry for St Pancras and that's where I'll be.

If the EMT platforms have Oyster, and I try "touching out" I wonder if
that might work? Or would it produce an unresolved journey.

sigh Why can't they just make pickup work from a ticket machine.

If I had a credit due I'd have a similar decision to make about
Waterloo, because I always arrive on a through ticket from outside the
zones, so I'd probably choose the Jubilee line.

At KX/St P there seem to be three separate LU barrier lines,
Met/Circle/H&C, Northern and Picc/Vic (they may have different names on
printouts though). Then there are the two NR, one for Kings Cross and
one for St Pancras. All 5 have OSIs with each other (and Euston).

So maybe I should have selected Kings Cross, and not St Pancras, then I
might have got one of the tube barrier lines?
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 17:59:03 on

I've been having second thoughts about selecting St Pancras - but it was
the only entry for St Pancras and that's where I'll be.

If the EMT platforms have Oyster, and I try "touching out" I wonder if
that might work? Or would it produce an unresolved journey.

I expect it would definitely be seen as an un-started journey, yes.

sigh Why can't they just make pickup work from a ticket machine.

Seems too obvious, doesn't it.

At KX/St P there seem to be three separate LU barrier lines,
Met/Circle/H&C, Northern and Picc/Vic (they may have different names on
printouts though). Then there are the two NR, one for Kings Cross and one
for St Pancras. All 5 have OSIs with each other (and Euston).

So maybe I should have selected Kings Cross, and not St Pancras, then I
might have got one of the tube barrier lines?

AIUI yes, you'd have probably seen the three choices, and probably Kings
Cross [NR] next to them.

Paul S

On 07/02/2011 18:54, Paul Scott wrote:

AIUI yes, you'd have probably seen the three choices, and probably Kings
Cross [NR] next to them.

Having opted to pick up a top-up from Kings Cross recently, there's now
just one entry which apparently covers Kings Cross (Suburban), and all
three of the LU gatelines, and presumably the new gateline in the main
trainshed.

Presumably the St Pancras entry covers the FCC, EMT and SET gatelines.

Cheers,

Barry

Here's another wrinkle, by email overnight they said:

"touch your Oyster card on a yellow reader at the location shown above
as you start a journey."

Which makes a choice of station even more complex (if they mean it). I
can't predict in advance what station I'm going to be using to travel
home *from* (in central London), even though I'm fairly sure which
station I'm heading *to*[1]. It depends what pub we go to after the
meeting etc.

So it has to be St Pancras (or if I was wider awake when answering "what
station am I changing to the tube at") Kings Cross.

[1] Barring disruption of various kinds. My most recent tube journey was
frustrated because the station I wanted to travel from, was closed due
to broken lifts.
--
Roland Perry

"Roland Perry" wrote:

Here's another wrinkle, by email overnight they said:

"touch your Oyster card on a yellow reader at the location shown above as
you start a journey."

Which makes a choice of station even more complex (if they mean it). I
can't predict in advance what station I'm going to be using to travel home
*from* (in central London), even though I'm fairly sure which station I'm
heading *to*[1]. It depends what pub we go to after the meeting etc.

So it has to be St Pancras (or if I was wider awake when answering "what
station am I changing to the tube at") Kings Cross.


I am 99% certain that's just badly worded and shouldn't be taken at literal
face value - Oyster 'products' can be collected either when starting or
finishing a journey, i.e. when touching-in *or* touching-out.

In message , at 19:07:44 on
Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Paul Corfield remarked:
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:53:51 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

I've got a mystery £6 "operational issue" credit, and a £5 top-up (so
that it activates online journey history) to pick up tomorrow. Will they
both leap aboard in one swipe?

No idea but I suspect it rather depends if they are both programmed for
the same gateline.

I did ask for the same gateline for both.

And where is St Pancras (National Rail) - is that any of the KX/StP tube
barriers, or only the ones at the western ticket hall?

I would imagine that it is actually the Thameslink gateline in St
Pancras itself.

The LU Kings Cross ticket halls are (or were) Tube (the old one we all
know and love), Western (over the Met / Circle lines)

which is in St Pancras

and Northern (the new one linked to St Pancras Int).

which as you say feels a bit like it's in St Pancras, even if it's
actually the KX side of the road.

Oh and don't forget Pentonville Road.

Indeed. Which reminds me of the Oyster validators that used to be at the
end of the tunnel. I don't suppose you can pick things up from them?
--
Roland Perry

On Feb 7, 7:52*pm, Roland Perry wrote:

In message , at 19:07:44
on Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Paul Corfield remarked:

On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 16:53:51 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

I've got a mystery £6 "operational issue" credit, and a £5 top-up (so
that it activates online journey history) to pick up tomorrow. Will they
both leap aboard in one swipe?

No idea but I suspect it rather depends if they are both programmed for
the same gateline.

I did ask for the same gateline for both.

And where is St Pancras (National Rail) - is that any of the KX/StP tube
barriers, or only the ones at the western ticket hall?

I would imagine that it is actually the Thameslink gateline in St
Pancras itself.

I concur. (If you just wanted to pick them up rather than having to
faff around getting the collection location changed, you could take
the Thameslink from St P to Farringdon I spose, before changing onto
the Underground.)


The LU Kings Cross ticket halls are (or were) Tube (the old one we all
know and love), Western (over the Met / Circle lines)

which is in St Pancras

Though the LU station is called "Kings Cross St Pancras".


and Northern (the new one linked to St Pancras Int).

which as you say feels a bit like it's in St Pancras, even if it's
actually the KX side of the road.

Oh and don't forget Pentonville Road.

Indeed. Which reminds me of the Oyster validators that used to be at the
end of the tunnel. I don't suppose you can pick things up from them?

I rather doubt that they're still there (or if they are, that they're
still operational) - their purpose was to provide a touch-in/out point
for people coming from/ going to the now defunct Thameslink platforms.

At other stations which just have standalone Oyster validators (as
opposed to gates), they can be used as a collection point for Oyster
'products' - but collection is only ever possible as part of a
journey, where they form the start or end point of said journey.

(I dare say that collection can also be made at the pink 'interchange
validators' at places such as H&I in the middle of journeys, but I
haven't tested this and probably shouldn't mention it to avoid
complicating the issue!)

In message
, at
12:18:27 on Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Mizter T remarked:

And where is St Pancras (National Rail) - is that any of the KX/StP tube
barriers, or only the ones at the western ticket hall?

I would imagine that it is actually the Thameslink gateline in St
Pancras itself.

I concur. (If you just wanted to pick them up rather than having to
faff around getting the collection location changed, you could take
the Thameslink from St P to Farringdon I spose, before changing onto
the Underground.)

What happens if I touch in, go through the barriers, u-turn and touch
out; then touch in again at the tube station. Would the OSI logic deal
with that OK?

It's the kind of thing one might do if you found all the Thameslink
trains were cancelled because of the wrong kind of knitting, only once
you've reached the platform.
--
Roland Perry