In article ,
(Martin Petrov) wrote:

*From:* Martin Petrov
*Date:* Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:11:00 +0000 (UTC)

I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so I
don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with some
minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order,
Shoreditch station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty
sure it closed in June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL closed
on the date you've suggested? (anyone confirm?)


Thanks for that, Wiki has the same date - I'll let Franklin know.

Roger

In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
(Martin Petrov) wrote:

I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so I don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with some minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order,
Shoreditch station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty
sure it closed in June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL
closed on the date you've suggested? (anyone confirm?)

Thanks for that, Wiki has the same date - I'll let Franklin know.

Have you told him of the two points I raised elsewhere - The Canonbury
curve and missing W&C abandoned siding at Waterloo?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Canonbury's now sorted, W&C to do - see my post on CIX (only just done as
I had a few problems posting to the topic - now sorted).

Roger

*From:*
*Date:* Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:05:44 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
(Martin Petrov) wrote:

I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so
I don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with
some minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order,
Shoreditch station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty
sure it closed in June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL
closed on the date you've suggested? (anyone confirm?)

Thanks for that, Wiki has the same date - I'll let Franklin know.

Have you told him of the two points I raised elsewhere - The
Canonbury curve and missing W&C abandoned siding at Waterloo?

--
Colin Rosenstiel


Roger

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*From:*
*Date:* Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:54:22 -0600

Canonbury's now sorted, W&C to do - see my post on CIX (only just
done as I had a few problems posting to the topic - now sorted).

Roger

*From:*
*Date:* Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:05:44 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
(Martin Petrov) wrote:

I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence,
so I don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with
some minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of
order, Shoreditch station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 -
I'm pretty sure it closed in June/July 2006, while the rest
of the ELL closed on the date you've suggested? (anyone
confirm?)

Thanks for that, Wiki has the same date - I'll let Franklin
know.

Have you told him of the two points I raised elsewhere - The
Canonbury curve and missing W&C abandoned siding at Waterloo?

--
Colin Rosenstiel


Roger


I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there (probably
as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding on the map. Do you
know if the siding was actually removed when the lift was taken out of
use? I suspect that the siding (being below ground) was just converted
into a normal siding after the removal of the lift, even though the
Eurostar work changed the top level layout.

Roger

In article ,
() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding on
the map.

That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is shown within the depot area
on the map I'm looking at. The siding to the lift went off straight ahead
on the approach to the station from Bank about where the curve to the
right into the Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:36:35 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to
Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding on
the map.

That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is shown within the
depot area on the map I'm looking at. The siding to the lift went
off straight ahead on the approach to the station from Bank about
where the curve to the right into the Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Sorry, I meant to say that Franklin has now updated Canonbury and this
will be shown correctly when the next version of the map is uploaded.

Reading Wiki, I see what you mean about the position of the lift siding. I
don't know anything about the arrangements at Waterloo depot. What I was
referring to was shown as "lift siding" on one diagram and "8 siding" on
another diagram, so I just assumed that 8 siding was the siding you were
referring to. I'll have to try and Google around to see if I can find a
diagram showing the lift siding connection so that I can pass it on to
Franklin.

Roger

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*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:59:34 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:36:35 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to
Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding
on the map. That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is
shown within the depot area on the map I'm looking at. The
siding to the lift went off straight ahead on the approach to the
station from Bank about where the curve to the right into the
Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Sorry, I meant to say that Franklin has now updated Canonbury and
this will be shown correctly when the next version of the map is
uploaded.

Reading Wiki, I see what you mean about the position of the lift
siding. I don't know anything about the arrangements at Waterloo
depot. What I was referring to was shown as "lift siding" on one
diagram and "8 siding" on another diagram, so I just assumed that 8
siding was the siding you were referring to. I'll have to try and
Google around to see if I can find a diagram showing the lift
siding connection so that I can pass it on to Franklin.

Roger

Looking at the 1914 Ordnance Survey map, I think I can see where the lift
was at ground level. Was the lift siding off the NB W&C line?

Roger

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() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:59:34 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

*From:*
*Date:* Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:36:35 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

Canonbury's now sorted,

Not that I can see. it still shows as from Southbound GNC to
Eastbound NLL.

I've checked W&C and the lift siding still appears to be there
(probably as an engineers siding) - it's shown as no.8 siding
on the map. That doesn't make sense to me. No 8 siding is
shown within the depot area on the map I'm looking at. The
siding to the lift went off straight ahead on the approach to the
station from Bank about where the curve to the right into the
Waterloo platforms starts.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Sorry, I meant to say that Franklin has now updated Canonbury and
this will be shown correctly when the next version of the map is
uploaded.

Reading Wiki, I see what you mean about the position of the lift
siding. I don't know anything about the arrangements at Waterloo
depot. What I was referring to was shown as "lift siding" on one
diagram and "8 siding" on another diagram, so I just assumed that 8
siding was the siding you were referring to. I'll have to try and
Google around to see if I can find a diagram showing the lift
siding connection so that I can pass it on to Franklin.

Roger

I've now found out why 8 road is now also called the lift road. Since the
closure of the Armstrong lift, the cars are lifted by crane directly from
8 road. The track of 8 road can be seen in Google Earth in the 'V'
junction between Spur Road and Station Approach Road. Something else new
that I've learnt :-)

Roger

wrote:
[W&C line]

I've now found out why 8 road is now also called the lift road. Since the
closure of the Armstrong lift, the cars are lifted by crane directly from
8 road. The track of 8 road can be seen in Google Earth in the 'V'
junction between Spur Road and Station Approach Road. Something else new
that I've learnt :-)

Here's the W&C carriages being lifted out of the hole in April '06 for
refurbishment...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121213923/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121214056/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121214019/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justindperkins/4349919722/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justindperkins/4349948484/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zimpenfish/121213974/

And here's one after the refurb, about to be craned back down the Drain in
August '06:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jimd/224388470/

Alas none really show the 'hole' - aha, here's a shot that illustrates that:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207601090/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207598827/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207598449/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597974/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597588/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version-3-point-1/207597190/

I realise now I've arranged these in the wrong order - these were the
refurbed carriages being returned to their subterranean home - my excuse is
that they don't show in chronological order he
http://www.flickr.com/photos/version...erloocityline/

You can see the 'hole' from street level of course.

test

*From:*
*Date:* Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:05:44 -0600

In article ,
() wrote:

In article ,
(Martin Petrov) wrote:

I've only just joined the newsgroup after a long absence, so
I don't
know what's been posted.

Franklin Jarrier has recently updated the London map with
some minor
changes and additions - now v1.1

http://carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/

That is an outstanding map - though as a minor point of order,
Shoreditch station is listed as closing 22/12/2007 - I'm pretty
sure it closed in June/July 2006, while the rest of the ELL
closed on the date you've suggested? (anyone confirm?)

Thanks for that, Wiki has the same date - I'll let Franklin know.

Have you told him of the two points I raised elsewhere - The
Canonbury curve and missing W&C abandoned siding at Waterloo?

--
Colin Rosenstiel


Roger