BBC London News on BBC1 is reporting this tonight - but I'm confused.
After Metronet failed and TfL bought out the Tube Lines contract I
thought it all already *was* in house. Can someone explain to me what
today's news is all about?

Thanks,

-roy

In article ,
(Roy Badami) wrote:

BBC London News on BBC1 is reporting this tonight - but I'm confused.
After Metronet failed and TfL bought out the Tube Lines contract I
thought it all already *was* in house. Can someone explain to me what
today's news is all about?

I thought Tube Lines had yet to be completely brought in-house?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On 08/03/2011 22:32, Roy Badami wrote:
BBC London News on BBC1 is reporting this tonight - but I'm confused.
After Metronet failed and TfL bought out the Tube Lines contract I
thought it all already *was* in house. Can someone explain to me what
today's news is all about?

AIUI they have taken over maintenance of the Jubilee Line /trains/ from
Alstom (I think at the end of the contract or at a break-point). Alstom
still maintains the Northern Line trains.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Mar 9, 9:32*am, (Roy Badami) wrote:
BBC London News on BBC1 is reporting this tonight - but I'm confused.
After Metronet failed and TfL bought out the Tube Lines contract I
thought it all already *was* in house. *Can someone explain to me what
today's news is all about?

AIUI, Tube Lines is now a wholly owned subsidiary of TfL, but is still
organisationally separate from LU (which now includes ex-Metronet) -
the plan is to merge it into LU over time.

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On Mar 8, 11:27*pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:

On 08/03/2011 22:32, Roy Badami wrote:

BBC London News on BBC1 is reporting this tonight - but I'm confused.
After Metronet failed and TfL bought out the Tube Lines contract I
thought it all already *was* in house. *Can someone explain to me what
today's news is all about?

AIUI they have taken over maintenance of the Jubilee Line /trains/ from
Alstom (I think at the end of the contract or at a break-point). Alstom
still maintains the Northern Line trains.

Yep - the Standard has the story he
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23929870-.do

Except:
---quote---
The Jubilee line, beset with problems despite an upgrade costing
hundreds of millions of pounds, will undergo major changes to ensure
it runs properly in time for the Olympics.

Train maintenance is being taken back "in-house", away from private
sector giant Alstom. Transport for London invoked a contract clause to
end a multi million-pound deal with the firm.
[snip]
TfL said the decision to end the Alstom agreement had "nothing to do"
with signalling problems but was intended to give the authority "full
control over fleet management and costs". A spokesman said it would
"help LU to provide a full, reliable service at an important period in
the line upgrade".
[...]
---quote---


I saw the late local news bulletin on the Beeb which featured this
story - the report did eventually mention it was about the trains
once, but otherwise it was pretty vague, e.g. there was no mention of
Alstom (what I saw might have been a shorter edit though). I can
imagine there being many viewers who had some idea about the demise of
the infracos who would have been a bit bemused by the report - they
should have specifically flagged up that it concerned the trains from
the beginning. (Indeed, UIVMM, the Alstom/ Jubilee line trains deal
predates the PPP, just like the Alstom/ Northern line PFI contract.)

On Mar 8, 11:27*pm, Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 08/03/2011 22:32, Roy Badami wrote:

BBC London News on BBC1 is reporting this tonight - but I'm confused.
After Metronet failed and TfL bought out the Tube Lines contract I
thought it all already *was* in house. *Can someone explain to me what
today's news is all about?

AIUI they have taken over maintenance of the Jubilee Line /trains/ from
Alstom

Rather a small piece of news.

LOROL!

On Mar 10, 7:53*am, Paul Corfield wrote:
AIUI, Tube Lines is now a wholly owned subsidiary of TfL, but is still
organisationally separate from LU (which now includes ex-Metronet) -
the plan is to merge it into LU over time.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Is it? * Where did you hear that then?

I thought it was stated at the time of the takeover that the long term
plan was to do the same for Tube Lines as for Metronet (which was also
run as an arms-length subsidiary for a couple of years after TfL
rescued it). That may have been press speculation rather than truth
though.

Still, it would seem odd if that *wasn't* the plan...

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

Thanks, Paul, for filling in all the details in the report (which to
be fair may in part be things I missed due to inattention rather than
errors on the part of the BBC).

-roy