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Roy Badami · April 12th 11, 08:24 PM posted to uk.transport.london

In article ,
Paul Corfield wrote:
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:57:35 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:46:02 +0100
"Mizter T" wrote:
Of course it's about revenue - Finsbury Park is known as somewhere where
there are no barriers, that combined with the Tube interchange makes it
attractive to those wishing to evade a fare.

They can't have just realised this after 20 years so there must be another
reason. Ah , I know what it is - before (honest) people would have touched
in at their tube station in central london and touched out at their
FCC station after the readers were installed there instead of finsbury. Now of
course they'll have to touch out at finsbury park too. More revenue and the
chance to charge people full penalty fares if they use PAYG. Result!

Err they are going to have to be very careful how they deal with this.
By putting gates on the FCC platforms they are making Finsbury Park a
potential OSI within one station given there are validators on the
interchange and entry / exit routes. They are going to have to be very,
very clear about what people do when coming in from the street or making
an interchange. They are potentially recreating the Stratford JLE
interchange gateline concept where people may have to entry or exit
validate twice if going from street to FCC platforms or else having to
validate on entry at, say, Palmers Green, exit at FCC gateline, re-enter
at LU validator at FP and final exit at whatever the person is
travelling to. The alternative is for the FCC gateline to effectively
perform a limited interchange check only but ISTR that the PAYG on NR
Ticket logic is not compatible with interchange gatelines - hence the
removal at Stratford.

Why can't they just leave things as they are? As we've discussed
before it's already set up for interchange (presumably because if you
transfer via Station Place you do actually leave the NR station via
one exit to the street and then re-enter the LUL station via an
adjacent entrance - or vice versa). Hence the problem of not being
able to start a new journey at Finsbury Park (or, I gather, anywhere
else) shortly after completing a journey at Finsbury Park.

Or do gates handle interchange differently from standalone readers?

Roy

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