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Often discussed here, but now something concrete in the London & SE RUS
final version - some north/south origin/destination pairings of Thameslink
services.

Source is table 5.2 in the RUS, which gives more info about routes and
stopping patterns, each pairing is 2 tph; except Brighton - Bedford which is
4tph:

18 tph through London Bridge

Brighton - Bedford 12-car (4 tph)
Three Bridges - Peterborough 12-car
Horsham - Cambridge 12-car
East Grinstead - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Caterham - St Albans 8-car
Tattenham Corner - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Tunbridge Wells - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Ashford International -Luton 12-car Peak only

6tph via Elephant and Castle

Maidstone East via Catford - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Sevenoaks via Catford - Luton 8-car
Bellingham via Catford - St Albans 8-car

Hope this of some interest

Paul S





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Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Paul Scott remarked:
Often discussed here, but now something concrete in the London & SE RUS
final version - some north/south origin/destination pairings of
Thameslink services.

Source is table 5.2 in the RUS, which gives more info about routes and
stopping patterns, each pairing is 2 tph; except Brighton - Bedford
which is 4tph:

18 tph through London Bridge

Brighton - Bedford 12-car (4 tph)
Three Bridges - Peterborough 12-car
Horsham - Cambridge 12-car


And so it looks like we will get a Cambridge-Gatwick train one day
(rather than those trains inheriting the earlier route of Kings Lynn to
Sevenoaks).

East Grinstead - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Caterham - St Albans 8-car
Tattenham Corner - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Tunbridge Wells - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Ashford International -Luton 12-car Peak only

6tph via Elephant and Castle

Maidstone East via Catford - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Sevenoaks via Catford - Luton 8-car
Bellingham via Catford - St Albans 8-car



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"Paul Scott" wrote:
Often discussed here, but now something concrete in the London & SE RUS
final version - some north/south origin/destination pairings of Thameslink
services.

Source is table 5.2 in the RUS, which gives more info about routes and
stopping patterns, each pairing is 2 tph; except Brighton - Bedford which
is 4tph:

18 tph through London Bridge

Brighton - Bedford 12-car (4 tph)
Three Bridges - Peterborough 12-car
Horsham - Cambridge 12-car
East Grinstead - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Caterham - St Albans 8-car
Tattenham Corner - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Tunbridge Wells - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Ashford International -Luton 12-car Peak only

6tph via Elephant and Castle

Maidstone East via Catford - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Sevenoaks via Catford - Luton 8-car
Bellingham via Catford - St Albans 8-car

Hope this of some interest


V interesting - thanks. Hadn't quite realised that there was a plan to
terminate some trains at Bellingham.

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V interesting - thanks. Hadn't quite realised that there was a plan to
terminate some trains at Bellingham.


Yes - that's a bit unannounced, otherwise the southern origins are pretty
close to the 2008 SL RUS.

I think Bellingham was previously a stopper from Orpington. Caterham and
Tattenham Corner were shown as East Croydon/Norwood Jn starts; and the
Tonbridge corridor services were previously shown as Tunbridge Wells and
Paddock Wood (now Ashford).

What is clearer from the multi colour table in the RUS is that the majority
of the 'southern' services are grouped as 4 tph services on most of their
route lengths. E.g. 4 tph via each of Redhill, Purley, Haywards Heath,
Orpington and Bromley South.

Paul S

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V interesting - thanks. Hadn't quite realised that there was a plan to
terminate some trains at Bellingham.


I read that and my first thought was that they'd opted for a positively
Bellesque alignment..

http://www.bellingham-heritage.org.uk/

... but then I realised there was one in London, too.

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"Mizter T" wrote in message
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V interesting - thanks. Hadn't quite realised that there was a plan to
terminate some trains at Bellingham.


I read that and my first thought was that they'd opted for a positively
Bellesque alignment..

http://www.bellingham-heritage.org.uk/

.. but then I realised there was one in London, too.

The London one is pronounced Belling'm. The Northumberland one is
Bellin-jam.

They might need to beef up the security of the Bellingham reversing/stabling
sidings - they are apparently notorious for graffiti.

Peter

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On Jul 28, 11:16*pm, "Paul Scott"
wrote:
Often discussed here, but now something concrete in the London & SE RUS
final version - some north/south origin/destination pairings of Thameslink
services.

Source is table 5.2 in the RUS, which gives more info about routes and
stopping patterns, each pairing is 2 tph; except Brighton - Bedford which is
4tph:

18 tph through London Bridge

Brighton - Bedford 12-car (4 tph)
Three Bridges - Peterborough 12-car
Horsham - Cambridge 12-car
East Grinstead - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Caterham - St Albans 8-car
Tattenham Corner - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Tunbridge Wells - Bedford 12-car Peak only
Ashford International -Luton 12-car Peak only

6tph via Elephant and Castle

Maidstone East via Catford - Welwyn Garden City 8-car
Sevenoaks via Catford - Luton *8-car
Bellingham via Catford - St Albans 8-car

Hope this of some interest

Paul S


'Tis a pit some of the Horsham terminators are not continuing to
Bognor Regis and/or Littlehampton.

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'Tis a pit some of the Horsham terminators are not continuing to
Bognor Regis and/or Littlehampton.



Makes sense, though. They've avoided having to either lengthen platforms or
have SDO on the trains.

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Tattenham Corner - Welwyn Garden City


That must be one of the more obscure pairings. I wonder how many end-to-
end tickets they will sell?

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"1506" wrote in message


'Tis a pit some of the Horsham terminators are not continuing to
Bognor Regis and/or Littlehampton.


Makes sense, though. They've avoided having to either lengthen platforms
or have SDO on the trains.


....and to be fair passengers are probably quite used to the useful service
pattern south of Horsham nowadays, with the alternate fast portions to/from
Portsmouth and Southampton, and the two Bognor portions forming the stopping
services.

Paul S



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