Am 04.01.2012 22:32, schrieb Hans-Joachim Zierke:
Operations like Metronom have given us better quality, by quite a
margin(!), at a lower cost level.

Because they have outsourced much of what other organisations do
themselves.


Cheers,
L.W.

Am 04.01.2012 21:29, schrieb The Real Doctor:
I just pointed out the fact that Herr Schnell is upset about the Berlin
railway workers still enjoying labor standards which they had acquired
during GDR times.

And there you go, judging what people should or should not be happy with.

You are proving again that you are not an honest opponent in any debate.

You do not read what I write, or turn it in its opposite.

Who, according to the above quoted sentence written by me, is upset?
Is my name Schnell?


Cheers,
L.W.

On 05/01/12 13:33, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 05.01.2012 14:11, schrieb The Real Doctor:
Still not answering the questions, eh?

This is uk.railway and the subject is the "Shutdown of Berlin Train
System".

I cannot not see any relationship of your libel to the topic.

What libel? All I asked was whether you believed that the holocaust (a)
occurred and (b) mattered. That after you accused me - without a shred
of evidence - of being a Hitler nostalgist, a colonial apologist and
many other things.

You've made some pretty repulsive accusations, Lüko, and it's not
unreasonable to ask where /you/ stand on the issues /you/ raise. Your
silence is eloquent.

Ian

Am 04.01.2012 15:20, schrieb Paul Rigg:
Before November 1989? I'm astonished.

Definitely. It was about August 1989. No sign of wall coming down at
all. They had DDR 40 in lights on a property in Alexanderplatz. Hard to
believe now that it never got much further!
Went up the funkturm as well- quite a good meal in the telecafe for £5.

The Funkturm is in West Berlin.

At that time of course the West Berlin S Bahn was being operated by the
BVB (BVG) in West Berlin, at least those parts of it which were open.

Maybe you are confusing various parts of Berlin? Köpenick is in the
East, Funkturm in the West.


Cheers,
L.W.

On 05/01/12 13:45, Lüko Willms wrote:
Somebody even claimed that one share changing hands could change the
nature of a company. Isn't that really ridiculous?

Ownership and financial goals are orthogonal. There are private
non-profits, private for-profits, state-owned non-profits, state-owned
for-profits and many other variations.

Ian

On Jan 5, 1:55*pm, Lüko Willms wrote:

* *Does he fire any gay person from the Scotrail operations he manages?

I'm sure the company has, but not because they are gay.

Neil

On 05/01/12 13:53, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 04.01.2012 21:24, schrieb The Real Doctor:
On 04/01/12 10:02, Lüko Willms wrote:
What do you tell somebody who claims, stamping his feet in the ground,
that the earth is flat and that the sun rotates around the earth?

How can the sun rotate around the earth if the earth is flat?

Ask the flat earthers, not me.

Sure. I'll stick to asking you why the DDR found it necessary to use
lethal force to stop emigration from a worker's paradise.

Ian

Am 04.01.2012 22:41, schrieb Wolfgang Schwanke:
Lüko wrote

I am quite sure that Friedrichstraße was the only East Berlin S-Bahn
station where one could buy S-Bahn tickets towards West Berlin in DM.
And only in the "non-socialist currency" area, i.e. the area which acted
as an exchange station for intra West Berlin traffic.

In the "eastern" part of the station there was a ticket counter where
you could buy the same tickets at the same price in East German marks.
And at least until 1984 those tickets were available all over East
Berlin. Maybe after 1984 only at Friedrichstraße, I'm not sure.

I can't remember ever having see this. And I have been in Berlin at
least once a year since the mid sixties. But not having seen it does not
prove that it did not exist.


Cheers,
L.W.

On 05/01/12 14:10, Lüko Willms wrote:
Am 04.01.2012 21:29, schrieb The Real Doctor:
I just pointed out the fact that Herr Schnell is upset about the Berlin
railway workers still enjoying labor standards which they had acquired
during GDR times.

And there you go, judging what people should or should not be happy with.

You are proving again that you are not an honest opponent in any debate.

Says the man who accuses anyone who disagrees with him of being a Hitler
apologist and yet consistently declines to state his own opinion on the
murderous proclivities of the Third Reich.

You do not read what I write, or turn it in its opposite.

It is often very difficult to work out what you are trying to say.

Who, according to the above quoted sentence written by me, is upset? Is
my name Schnell?

You claim that the subway workers ought to be happy with ("enjoying" is
the key word) DDR labour standards. I'm still not clear whether you
think that should enjoy shooting them if they want to move west.

Ian

Am 05.01.2012 13:01, schrieb Graeme Wall:

On George Orwell's "1984"

Sure, one of the best novels of the past century. Strongly based on the
coming reality.

Of Soviet Russia.

No, but he drew lots of his own experience in the Spanish civil war,
where the GPU acted as an openly counterrevolutionary force. His "Homage
to Catalunya" is the book which earned him the deadly hostility of the
stalinists.

Orwell knew what he was writing about.

Which is more than you do.

Well, he made his experience with the BBC by working for it. I am
only an observer.

But as the title says, it is a book about the future. We are beginning
to see it becoming reality. "1984" is more up to date than it ever was.


Cheers,
L.W.