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Is it included on a Travelcard?

TfL aren't that daft. But Travelcard and Freedom Pass holders will be
able to buy a pass at the Oyster PAYG rate rather than the cash rate
according to the myriad press reports.

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On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:19:44 +0100, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 00:15:12 +0100, Paul Corfield
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 01:14:04 +0200, Jarle H Knudsen
wrote:

Any chance the Air Line will open in the next two weeks?


According to a tweet from Tom Edwards of BBC London the dangleway will
open at midday on Friday 28 June 2012. I imagine Boris will be doing
his stuff in the morning.

Oyster fare is £3.20 (I assume on PAYG). £4.30 cash.

Frequent flyers pay £16 for 10 rides.


*Thursday* 28 June 2012.


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http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/medi...tre/24269.aspx
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On 18/06/2012 08:20, Robin wrote:
I suspect that might just allow Jarle to sneak a ride before he has to
head to the airport!


Unless of course it will immediately be designated a "Games Lane" as
part of the Olympic Routre Network and its use restricted to athletes -
plus of course the many thousands of Olympic "VIPs" and other people who
helped spend our money on their toys.


Bah humbug.
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On 18/06/2012 07:06, Neil Williams wrote:

Paul Corfield wrote:

Oyster fare is £3.20 (I assume on PAYG). £4.30 cash.

Frequent flyers pay £16 for 10 rides.


Great, yet another non integrated element in TfL's fare system.


What on earth were you expecting? It's a fair ground ride writ large.
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On 18/06/2012 09:51, Neil Williams wrote:

Paul wrote:

Did you ever expect it to be on standard fares? It's always felt
like a premium service to me.


I expected them to do what they did, but I don't think it was right to do
that. It should have been in the standard fares system, treated as a Tube
journey for ticketing purposes.


If you want to pay a Tube fare to get from the Royal Docks to the
Greenwich Peninsula, then take the Tube...


The only separate fares structure I see a need for in London is a cheaper
bus only fare to reduce Tube overcrowding. Everything else should be on
one single unified tariff, which should also include connectional bus
travel. If the Germans can do it, why can't we?


'We' don't have the money to do it, for a start.


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In message , at 09:55:59 on Mon, 18 Jun
2012, Robin remarked:
Is it included on a Travelcard?


TfL aren't that daft. But Travelcard and Freedom Pass holders will be
able to buy a pass at the Oyster PAYG rate rather than the cash rate
according to the myriad press reports.


Thus confirming beyond any reasonable doubt that the £1.10 surcharge for
cash is in fact a "tourist tax".
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Thus confirming beyond any reasonable doubt that the £1.10 surcharge
for cash is in fact a "tourist tax".


For only some values of reasonable as there is also the explanation that
TfL wished to maintain the general message that travel is cheaper with
an Oyster Card.

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In message , at 11:25:18 on
Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Paul Corfield remarked:

I hope the ticket machines have got a lot of 70p's in them, for change.


Come now - get with the jargon. "Boarding Pass" machines.


The project seems riddled with faux-airline terminology. I suppose they
think the pun is amusing. Although to me an "air line" is one of those
machines at the garage that inflates tyres - or perhaps my mid-Atlantic
vocabulary is getting in the way.
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Mizter T wrote:

'We' don't have the money to do it, for a start.


Nonsense. Fares can be changed up and down as appropriate. The current
system favours those who are already favoured by having a direct train or
bus only service for their journey. That is unfair.

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"Robin" wrote:

TfL aren't that daft.


What's daft about the idea that a public transport service in London should
be on a Travelcard.

If it is a public transport service, it should absolutely be included. If
it is not, the roundel should be removed.

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