On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:27:19 +0100, "
wrote:

On 16/07/2012 10:51, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

I rode on one of the new(ish) DLR trains for the first time on sunday. Going
at full pelt from shadwell to westferry there wasn't any wobble at the
front at all. So there was a design fault with the old trains which the TfL
apologists on here constantly denied despite being asked why no other tram
system exhibited it. Either that or its magic, take your pick.

B2003

Would the old trains be suitable for the Isle of Wight?


DLR rolling stock is built mainly for ATO. They can indeed run on
manual, but I do wonder how Island Line drivers would feel about not
having a separate cab. Maybe they could refit them, though?

What drivers :-)

On 16/07/2012 20:32, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:27:19 +0100, "
wrote:

On 16/07/2012 10:51, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

I rode on one of the new(ish) DLR trains for the first time on sunday. Going
at full pelt from shadwell to westferry there wasn't any wobble at the
front at all. So there was a design fault with the old trains which the TfL
apologists on here constantly denied despite being asked why no other tram
system exhibited it. Either that or its magic, take your pick.

B2003

Would the old trains be suitable for the Isle of Wight?


DLR rolling stock is built mainly for ATO. They can indeed run on
manual, but I do wonder how Island Line drivers would feel about not
having a separate cab. Maybe they could refit them, though?

What drivers :-)


If they want to fit the Island Line to run crewless trains, then be my
guest.

On Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:25 AM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
I rode on one of the new(ish) DLR trains for the first time on sunday. Going
at full pelt from shadwell to westferry there wasn't any wobble at the
front at all. So there was a design fault with the old trains which the TfL
apologists on here constantly denied despite being asked why no other tram
system exhibited it. Either that or its magic, take your pick.

B2003

Sorry which new trains are these? The latest "new" trains that I know of are at least four years old.

On 16/07/2012 21:35, Dr. Sunil wrote:
On Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:25 AM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
I rode on one of the new(ish) DLR trains for the first time on sunday. Going
at full pelt from shadwell to westferry there wasn't any wobble at the
front at all. So there was a design fault with the old trains which the TfL
apologists on here constantly denied despite being asked why no other tram
system exhibited it. Either that or its magic, take your pick.

B2003

Sorry which new trains are these? The latest "new" trains that I know of are at least four years old.

Older DLR stock, which the "new" trains allegedly replaced.

On Monday, July 16, 2012 9:44:32 PM UTC+1, wrote:
On 16/07/2012 21:35, Dr. Sunil wrote:
> On Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:25 AM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
>> I rode on one of the new(ish) DLR trains for the first time on sunday. Going
>> at full pelt from shadwell to westferry there wasn't any wobble at the
>> front at all. So there was a design fault with the old trains which the TfL
>> apologists on here constantly denied despite being asked why no other tram
>> system exhibited it. Either that or its magic, take your pick.
>>
>> B2003
>
> Sorry which new trains are these? The latest "new" trains that I know of are at least four years old.
>
Older DLR stock, which the "new" trains allegedly replaced.

I was referring to the "new" trains mentioned by the original poster.

The B07 stock were delivered in two batches between 2007 and 2010.

In article , d ()
wrote:

Though it seems every "new" train LU offers them they don't want. I think
the victoria line stock was last mooted and that was no good for some
reason, and they didn't want the 59/62 or 83 stock either. If they're only
going to accept trains that are non aluminium salt water resistant then
they're going to have to get them specially built because there arn't
any tube trains left that match that criteria.

Too much steel/ali combination underneath to cope with the sea spray on Ryde
Pier and not rot through electrolytic corrosion.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:08:15 +0100
Mizter T wrote:
Don't know. Whatever the reason the new stock has sorted it. I'm pretty
sure if it was as simple as the wheel profile they could have re-profiled
all the wheels and sorted it out years ago.

Ride the new stock a bit more.

I rode one there and rode one back and no hint of wobble. So either I just
happened to get lucky and ride the 2 that don't have it or its been sorted.

B2003

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:35:49 -0700 (PDT)
"Dr. Sunil" wrote:
On Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:25 AM UTC+1, (unknown) wrote:
I rode on one of the new(ish) DLR trains for the first time on sunday. Going
at full pelt from shadwell to westferry there wasn't any wobble at the
front at all. So there was a design fault with the old trains which the TfL
apologists on here constantly denied despite being asked why no other tram
system exhibited it. Either that or its magic, take your pick.

B2003

Sorry which new trains are these? The latest "new" trains that I know of are
at least four years old.

Thats why I said new(ish). It would help if people would learn to read.
And they're not all four years old.

B2003

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:32:46 -0500
wrote:
In article , d ()
wrote:

Though it seems every "new" train LU offers them they don't want. I think
the victoria line stock was last mooted and that was no good for some
reason, and they didn't want the 59/62 or 83 stock either. If they're only
going to accept trains that are non aluminium salt water resistant then
they're going to have to get them specially built because there arn't
any tube trains left that match that criteria.

Too much steel/ali combination underneath to cope with the sea spray on Ryde
Pier and not rot through electrolytic corrosion.

I'm sure a bit of judicious anti corrosion paint or galvanisation would sort
that out. Or perhaps put baffles up on ryde pier so there's less spray.

B2003

In article , d ()
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:32:46 -0500
wrote:
In article , d ()
wrote:

Though it seems every "new" train LU offers them they don't want. I
think the victoria line stock was last mooted and that was no good for
some reason, and they didn't want the 59/62 or 83 stock either. If
they're only going to accept trains that are non aluminium salt water
resistant then they're going to have to get them specially built
because there arn't any tube trains left that match that criteria.

Too much steel/ali combination underneath to cope with the sea spray on
Ryde Pier and not rot through electrolytic corrosion.

I'm sure a bit of judicious anti corrosion paint or galvanisation
would sort that out. Or perhaps put baffles up on ryde pier so
there's less spray.

That won't work on aluminium. I suggest you learn some chemistry and
metallurgy.

--
Colin Rosenstiel