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Underground Maps Unravelled
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:57:15 +0100
David Cantrell wrote: If you'd actually used a journey planner, you would know that you are talking about something completely different. A mere map can't include all the buses, or know how frequent they are, and how frequent all the trains are, or which lines are open, and so be able to find the best route for you across all modes of transport and tell you how long it'll take (kinda important for when you have to get from your hotel to the station to get your train home), taking into account your preferences for number of changes, how far to walk etc. You're assuming any information you'll get on your phone will be up to date. Having used travel websites myself I suspect the chances of that always being the case are slim. Add to that travelling in a foreign country, where you might not be able to read things like "this station is closed at weekends" or "北京地铁", and you will see that an application running on your phone in your language is clearly better than a map. Fine, but that means you're relying on a device that could be lost, stolen, have no connection or a flat battery. Then what? Pidgin english with the nearest local who looks like he might know when the next bus shows? B2003 |
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Underground Maps Unravelled
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 11:30:13 +0100
David Cantrell wrote: Fine, but that means you're relying on a device that could be lost That's your own stupid fault stolen, As is that, usually. Thats as maybe, but given that the original suggestion was to replace maps etc with apps on a smartphone then this has to be taken into account. have no connection Not likely in any place with a significant transport network. It might not be down to lack of a network but lack of a roaming agreement with your phone company. Also if they only offer 2G then good luck with using anything web based and assuming free wifi will always be available as an alternative is assuming rather a lot. I forget when was the last time I was foolish enough to let my phone's battery run out when I needed it. Years ago, at any rate. If you use smartphones a lot the battery can go within a day which isn't much use if you're spending the day away from the hotel. Unless you carry the charger and adaptor everywhere you go and hope you can find a socket somewhere. degree. It won't work when a Chinese tourist who doesn't speak English is lost in London, where no-one (yeah, yeah) speaks Chinese. If someone visits a country that doesn't speak a language they know and they don't even bother to learn basic emergency phrases in the local lingo then more fool them. B2003 |
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Underground Maps Unravelled
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If you use smartphones a lot the battery can go within a day which isn't much use if you're spending the day away from the hotel. I charge mine every night, but it rarely if ever needs more. Neil -- Neil Williams in Milton Keynes, UK. Put first name before the at to reply |
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Underground Maps Unravelled
On 22 Aug 2012 11:15:55 GMT, Neil Williams wrote:
wrote: If you use smartphones a lot the battery can go within a day which isn't much use if you're spending the day away from the hotel. I charge mine every night, but it rarely if ever needs more. I need about two and half charges a day on my Samsung Galaxy S II, so I carry extra batteries and have a separate battery charger. Problem solved. -- jhk |
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Underground Maps Unravelled
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:57:10 +0200
Jarle H Knudsen wrote: On 22 Aug 2012 11:15:55 GMT, Neil Williams wrote: wrote: If you use smartphones a lot the battery can go within a day which isn't much use if you're spending the day away from the hotel. I charge mine every night, but it rarely if ever needs more. I need about two and half charges a day on my Samsung Galaxy S II, so I carry extra batteries and have a separate battery charger. Problem solved. Meanwhile my Nokia dumbphone will go a week on a single charge in normal use. B2003 |
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Underground Maps Unravelled
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:47:38PM +0000, d wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:57:10 +0200 Jarle H Knudsen wrote: I need about two and half charges a day on my Samsung Galaxy S II, so I carry extra batteries and have a separate battery charger. Problem solved. Meanwhile my Nokia dumbphone will go a week on a single charge in normal use. I think we can summarise this as: * useful devices get used a lot and so use power; * not very useful devices get used less and so use less power Mind you, needing to be charged two or three times a day is excessive. I'd take the thing back to the shop, as there must be something wrong with it. -- David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david You can't spell AWESOME without ME! |
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Underground Maps Unravelled
Jarle H Knudsen wrote:
On 22 Aug 2012 11:15:55 GMT, Neil Williams wrote: wrote: If you use smartphones a lot the battery can go within a day which isn't much use if you're spending the day away from the hotel. I charge mine every night, but it rarely if ever needs more. I need about two and half charges a day on my Samsung Galaxy S II, so I carry extra batteries and have a separate battery charger. Problem solved. I found my HTC smartphone needed more than one charge a day so I bought an aftermarket battery with 50% more capacity which, although slightly bigger, still just fits in the battery compartment. It gave the phone the extra time needed so I only charged it once a day. But what made the biggest difference was upgrading the Google OS to 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. Power management is much better and I can get two days out of one charge as long as I avoid a couple of apps that are particularly power hungry. |
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Underground Maps Unravelled
On 22/08/2012 18:42, Bruce wrote:
Jarle H Knudsen wrote: On 22 Aug 2012 11:15:55 GMT, Neil Williams wrote: wrote: If you use smartphones a lot the battery can go within a day which isn't much use if you're spending the day away from the hotel. I charge mine every night, but it rarely if ever needs more. I need about two and half charges a day on my Samsung Galaxy S II, so I carry extra batteries and have a separate battery charger. Problem solved. I found my HTC smartphone needed more than one charge a day so I bought an aftermarket battery with 50% more capacity which, although slightly bigger, still just fits in the battery compartment. It gave the phone the extra time needed so I only charged it once a day. But what made the biggest difference was upgrading the Google OS to 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. Power management is much better and I can get two days out of one charge as long as I avoid a couple of apps that are particularly power hungry. I have an iPhone 4S, and I find that I need to charge it only once every 24 hours, even with heavy usage. If I leave it alone for a bit, then I could probably even go as long as 36 hours without charging. |
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