On 2013\01\11 09:52, d wrote:

Most women seem almost completely incapable of walking off the end of an
escalator normally.

Most women or most women in high heels?

"David Walters" wrote in message
...

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:16:08 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:
In message , at 11:10:49 on
Thu, 10 Jan 2013, David Walters remarked:

125. Nineteen stations just use lifts.

They have stairs as well.

A list I've been looking for but haven't been able to find is stations,
or platforms really, that don't have publicly accessible stairs.

I've always understood that every station with "only" lifts also has
emergency stairs (that may not be well signposted for regular use). And
also some stations still have the stairs despite now being fitted with
escalators (TCR springs to mind).

I think that is true but some stations have escalators and no fixed
stairs, assuming everything is working. The stairs at Angel still seem to
be present but I think I'd cause a disturbance if I exited the platforms
that way.

If you have a desire to avoid lifts and escalators then a lot of the
underground is off limits and it is very hard to plan a route with
available information.

http://www.directenquiries.com/londo...d.aspx?tbclr=1
is useful for this sort of thing.

Peter Smyth

"Kai Borgolte" wrote in message ...

Am 11.01.2013 00:12, schrieb Clive D. W. Feather:

147. A 2011 study suggested 30 per cent of passengers take longer routes
due to the out-of-scale distances on the Tube map.

I'm very skeptical of that claim.

It may be true for the isolated case Paddington to Bond Street via Baker
Street/Notting Hill Gate: "Although the second route is considerably slower
(by about 15 per cent), some 30 per cent of travellers chose it, Professor
Guo found."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2000847/30-passengers-longer-routes-Londons-Tube-map-misrepresents-distances-stations.html

And someone who ignores Paddington station completely and walks to Lancaster
Gate has a good chance of beating both of them.

Peter Smyth

"Recliner" wrote in message
...
The Telegraph has compiled a list of 150 "Tube facts" to go with the
anniversary. Most will be known to the well informed members of this
group,
but some may not be, and some are bound to be disputed. Here's their list:

Thanks for posting this, some great trivia :-)


--
Edward Cowling North London UK
http://twitter.com/gnilwoce
http://mardoun.weebly.com/
http://www.facebook.com/ed.cowling

On 11/01/2013 09:06, Paul Cummins wrote:
We were about to embark at Dover, when
(Recliner) came up to me and whispered:

Are you seriously suggesting they should have celebrated the 150th
anniversary of a bit of unimportant Essex railway seven years ago?

No, but it is a bit disingenuous to do the same for a bit of unimportant
London railway now...

And anyway, what about the bits of "old" formation re-used by Docklands
and Tramlink... I don't see their 150th being celebrated.

While not celebrated as lavishly, ISTR there was some awareness of the
200th anniversary of bits of what is now Tramlink.

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 18:22:30 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\01\11 09:52, d wrote:

Most women seem almost completely incapable of walking off the end of an
escalator normally.

Most women or most women in high heels?

Most women regardless of footwear if the ones who use the tube are anything
to go by.

B2003

In message , Paul
Cummins wrote:
On that basis, surely the "Tube" is 157 years old, as parts of the
Central Line were first operated in 1856.

Or perhaps you would prefer it to be 1858, the start date of service over
part of the Hammersmith and City?

How about 1837, when at least one station on the Bakerloo Line was
opened?

--
Clive D.W. Feather | Home:
Mobile: +44 7973 377646 | Web: http://www.davros.org
Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is:

In message , at 18:20:45 on Fri, 11
Jan 2013, tim..... remarked:

147. A 2011 study suggested 30 per cent of passengers take longer routes
due to the out-of-scale distances on the Tube map.

I'm very skeptical of that claim.

It may be true for the isolated case Paddington to Bond Street via
Baker Street/Notting Hill Gate: "Although the second route is
considerably slower (by about 15 per cent), some 30 per cent of
travellers chose it, Professor Guo found."

I don't see that he can conclude that it's got anything to do with the
journey "looking" shorted.

That's what academics do - they study things and come to conclusions.

In the case of catching a train from Padd it could easily be because
access to the circle line platforms is simpler.

Erm, both routes he was comparing were from the Circle platforms.

Here's another one:

What's the optimum route from Waterloo to King's Cross?

Well known to be via Oxford Circus. Because of the cross-platform
change.

The shortest route on the ground (whichever way that is)

Did you read the article *at all*? Hint: it includes a geographic map as
well.

ps The shortest route on the ground is probably via Leicester Square
(second shortest via Warren St) in both cases the Beck map quite closely
resembling the geographic one.
--
Roland Perry

In message , Roland Perry
wrote:
6.35km according to official measurements.

I assume you mean the railway, not the road.

Yes.

So that's 3.95 miles. Is the 0.06 mile (about 320ft) something to do
with which end of the platform they are measuring from?

Shrug. 6.35 would be mid-point at Chalfont to the buffer stop at
Chesham.

--
Clive D.W. Feather | Home:
Mobile: +44 7973 377646 | Web: http://www.davros.org
Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is:

In message , Roland Perry
wrote:
70. The first section of the Underground ran between Paddington (Bishop's
Road) and Farringdon Street. The same section now forms part of the Circle,
Hammersmith & City, and Metropolitan lines.

Not the Met.

According to TfL:

"The Metropolitan line runs from Aldgate to Amersham, with branches to
Chesham, Uxbridge and Watford covering 66.7km (41.5 miles)."

Or are you being pedantic about the Baker St-Paddington bit?

Yes. That section now forms part of the Circle and Hammersmith & City
Lines, and parts of that section now form part of the District and
Metropolitan Lines.

--
Clive D.W. Feather | Home:
Mobile: +44 7973 377646 | Web: http://www.davros.org
Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: