In message , at 11:19:11
on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, remarked:
I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?

The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).

Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.

For minicabs based in the central TfL area, rather than the outer TfL
area? Where is this inner/outer thing defined.
--
Roland Perry

In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
11:19:11 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, remarked:
I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even
though they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt?
Perhaps they have to be based in central London?

The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).

Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.

For minicabs based in the central TfL area, rather than the outer TfL
area? Where is this inner/outer thing defined.

For black cabs. Some appear to have licences limited to suburban ranks or
the like.

Colin Rosenstiel

In message , at 13:45:16
on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, remarked:
I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even
though they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt?
Perhaps they have to be based in central London?

The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).

Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.

For minicabs based in the central TfL area, rather than the outer TfL
area? Where is this inner/outer thing defined.

For black cabs. Some appear to have licences limited to suburban ranks or
the like.

That doesn't help answer the question about minicabs
--
Roland Perry

On 2013\04\01 16:28, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message
, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."

I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?

All London licensed minicabs are exempt from the CC. Anyone can get any
vehicle, even a pickup truck, registered as a minicab and so become
exempt from CC without being involved in any minicab company. If some
company is telling the passenger that they have to pay it so that they
can pass that charge on to the passenger, you should name and shame the
company, because either they are passing on a non-existent charge
(immoral and possibly illegal) or they are using vehicles which are not
licensed as minicabs (illegal).

On 2013\04\01 17:19, wrote:
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message
,
at 10:28:42 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner
remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black
cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed minicab
or taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."

I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps they
have to be based in central London?

The TfL site does not give the impression there's any such
discrimination (assuming they are both registered with TTPH).

Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.

No. London has 10 different taxi driver licences available for new taxi
drivers giving entitlement to work in different areas because they have
done different knowledges, but there is only one type of London taxi
license available for taxi vehicles, and it is the latter which is
registered as exempt from the CC.

On 2013\04\02 07:52, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\04\01 17:19, wrote:

Strange. There are different sorts of taxi licences at least.

No. London has 10 different taxi driver licences available for new taxi
drivers giving entitlement to work in different areas because they have
done different knowledges, but there is only one type of London taxi
license available for taxi vehicles, and it is the latter which is
registered as exempt from the CC.

Correction: 2 or 3 of these areas are not accepting new drivers,
allegedly due to oversupply of drivers. As a further clarification of
the above, the same taxi might be used by a Central London driver one
day and by a suburban driver the next, but the CC people are not
informed about the driver because it is the vehicle which is exempt.

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've paid
about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and from the
eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).

For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.

--
John Ray

On 02/04/2013 07:46, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2013\04\01 16:28, Recliner wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message


, at 10:06:35 on Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Recliner
remarked:
They also don't have the right to use the bus lanes, whereas black
cabs do.

True. Do black cabs have to pay the cc?

TfL: "You are also exempt if your vehicle is a London licensed
minicab or
taxi (licensed with TfL Taxi and Private Hire)."

I think my local (suburban) minicabs do have to pay the cc, even though
they're TfL licensed, so I wonder which minicabs are exempt? Perhaps
they
have to be based in central London?

All London licensed minicabs are exempt from the CC. Anyone can get any
vehicle, even a pickup truck, registered as a minicab and so become
exempt from CC without being involved in any minicab company. If some
company is telling the passenger that they have to pay it so that they
can pass that charge on to the passenger, you should name and shame the
company, because either they are passing on a non-existent charge
(immoral and possibly illegal) or they are using vehicles which are not
licensed as minicabs (illegal).

Ryanair CEO Michael O'Leary does something like that, thus allowing him
to use the bus lanes in Dublin.

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 07:46:16AM +0100, Basil Jet wrote:

All London licensed minicabs are exempt from the CC. Anyone can get any
vehicle, even a pickup truck, registered as a minicab and so become
exempt from CC without being involved in any minicab company. If some
company is telling the passenger that they have to pay it so that they
can pass that charge on to the passenger, you should name and shame the
company, because either they are passing on a non-existent charge
(immoral and possibly illegal) or they are using vehicles which are not
licensed as minicabs (illegal).

Or they're one of the unfortunates who are based just outside the CC
area, so are legal and licenced but not licenced by the PCO, and have
lots of their business taking people into town. Now, obviously they
can't just pick people up off the street, but AFAIK it *is* kosher for
someone living in the CC area who wants to go to, say, Guildford, to
phone a cab company in Guildford and ask them to pick him up. I've
certainly done it anyway, phoning a taxi company based in Caterham
to come and pick me up in London.

--
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The word "urgent" is the moral of the story "The boy who cried wolf". As
a general rule I don't believe it until a manager comes to me almost in
tears. I like to catch them in a cup and drink them later.
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On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:11:04 +0100, John Ray wrote:

On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:33:49 -0500, Recliner
wrote:

eastender wrote:
On 2013-03-31 16:44:17 +0000, John Ray said:

How are nowadays the taxi fares? Still the same? Thank you
The fare tables can be found he
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/...axis/1140.aspx

The fares guide is rather optimistically low - in recent trips I've paid
about £8 more than than the 'max' £21 4 mile/30 min trip to and from the
eastern edge of N1 to W1 (Green Park area). £30 when you add in tips.

Yes, the fares today seem very expensive. Mini cabs are much cheaper, but
do have to be pre-booked (or at least phoned for, rather than hailed on the
street).

For short distances a black cab can be cheaper than a minicab. My
local minicab company has a minimum fare of £4, whereas the black cab
minimum is £2.40.

How far would you get for £2.40 in a black cab, or even £4?