what do you all think of graffiti?

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what do you all think of graffiti?

It's generally ****. The graffiti you get on the tube is not the
artistic sort of graffiti, it's just rubbish looking tags and
meaningless things scratched in windows.

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what do you all think of graffiti?

It's generally ****. The graffiti you get on the tube is not the
artistic sort of graffiti, it's just rubbish looking tags and
meaningless things scratched in windows.

It's *all* ****. There is no such thing as "the artistic sort of graffiti"
as far as I'm concerned. It is all vandalism and criminal damage. Let's
not try to pretend that these malicious trespassers are creating anything
of value.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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what do you all think of graffiti?

It's generally ****. The graffiti you get on the tube is not the
artistic sort of graffiti, it's just rubbish looking tags and
meaningless things scratched in windows.

It's *all* ****. There is no such thing as "the artistic sort of graffiti"
as far as I'm concerned. It is all vandalism and criminal damage. Let's
not try to pretend that these malicious trespassers are creating anything
of value.

you are very, very narrow minded who probably watches too much
eastenders. why isn't the 'art' side art? If I sprayed a picture of a
person for example on a wall (a legal wall)... what would you call
that? vandalism? fool.

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Robin May wrote:
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what do you all think of graffiti?

It's generally ****. The graffiti you get on the tube is not the
artistic sort of graffiti, it's just rubbish looking tags and
meaningless things scratched in windows.

It's *all* ****. There is no such thing as "the artistic sort of
graffiti" as far as I'm concerned. It is all vandalism and
criminal damage. Let's not try to pretend that these malicious
trespassers are creating anything of value.

you are very, very narrow minded who probably watches too much
eastenders.

I watch *no* EastEnders, so I don't understand the connection.

why isn't the 'art' side art? If I sprayed a picture of a
person for example on a wall (a legal wall)... what would you call
that? vandalism?

It depends what you mean by a "legal wall". If it's a wall inside your
house, or someone else's house and they have given you permission, then it
might be a work of art. However, if you live, say, in a Victorian terrace
house of unpainted London stock brick like its neighbours, and you spray a
picture of a person all over the front wall, I *would* call that vandalism.
And if you lived in a conservation area, it would probably be illegal too.

You are trying to expand the boundaries of what you call "art" while
denying that the existing environment can be "art" in its widest sense too.
What gives you the right to decide unilaterally to impose your "art" on
other people's property, and in doing so destroy the visual effect that
they have deliberately created?
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

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It's *all* ****. There is no such thing as "the artistic sort of
graffiti"
as far as I'm concerned. It is all vandalism and criminal damage. Let's
not try to pretend that these malicious trespassers are creating anything
of value.

Totally agree. It's just little kiddies with spray paint or magic markers
who think - in the depths of their ignorance - that they are creating 'art'
by desecrating other people's property. Still, we used to do silly, naughty
little things when we were children, I suppose - I guess this is just an
extension of this. Smack their bottoms and put them to bed with no supper, I
say!

Ian

A lot of the people comitting this crime, are in their 20s, you think they'd
know better, a lot are in work some highly paid and in responsible
positions, apparantly they deface the world for the thrill.

I lothe graffiti, it make the world an ugly threatning place, it's not art
thats for certain.

ISII
"Ian F." wrote in message
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"Richard J." wrote in message
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It's *all* ****. There is no such thing as "the artistic sort of
graffiti"
as far as I'm concerned. It is all vandalism and criminal damage.
Let's
not try to pretend that these malicious trespassers are creating
anything
of value.

Totally agree. It's just little kiddies with spray paint or magic markers
who think - in the depths of their ignorance - that they are creating
'art'
by desecrating other people's property. Still, we used to do silly,
naughty
little things when we were children, I suppose - I guess this is just an
extension of this. Smack their bottoms and put them to bed with no supper,
I
say!

Ian

In message , Ishmael
Sayle III writes
A lot of the people comitting this crime, are in their 20s, you think they'd
know better, a lot are in work some highly paid and in responsible
positions, apparantly they deface the world for the thrill.

I lothe graffiti, it make the world an ugly threatning place, it's not art
thats for certain.

I could *possibly* agree with you about some graffiti but I don't think
Picasso would have agreed with you when he painted Guernica.
Art isn't *only* pictures suitable for chocolate boxes.
--
Kat Me, Ambivalent? Well, yes and no.

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what do you all think of graffiti?

It's generally ****. The graffiti you get on the tube is not the
artistic sort of graffiti, it's just rubbish looking tags and
meaningless things scratched in windows.

The 'tagging' variety is indicative of a mentality like that of a dog
urinating against a lamppost.

The 'artistic' variety indicates that the perpetrator labours under
the delusion that he has some degree of talent.

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Robin May wrote in message
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what do you all think of graffiti?

It's generally ****. The graffiti you get on the tube is not the
artistic sort of graffiti, it's just rubbish looking tags and
meaningless things scratched in windows.

The 'tagging' variety is indicative of a mentality like that of a
dog urinating against a lamppost.

I agree.

The 'artistic' variety indicates that the perpetrator labours
under the delusion that he has some degree of talent.

I believe I've mentioned it before, but there is a foot bridge over the
District line near me that seems to be a designated location for people
to do graffiti, and the people who've done things there really do have
talent (I should probably take some photos of it actually).
Unfortunately I can't really think of anywhere else that I've seen
stuff of the same quality, so I suppose the vast majority of graffiti
probably is just rubbish.

--
message by Robin May, enforcer of sod's law.
Enjoy the Routemaster while you still can.

Crime is confusing.