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On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 13:29:41 -0000
"Peter Masson" wrote:
Until the 1990s, when the site was required for building Waterloo
International, access to the W&C was via a hoist in Waterloo Yard. W&C stock
could be brought to the surface using the hoist, and AIUI worked under its
own power to Wimbledon Depot for overhaul. The W&C originally had its own
power station, and coal trucks used the hoist to provide power. In 1948 the
lift descended while some trucks were being shunted on to it, and 4 coal
trucks and a loco landed at the bottom of the shaft.


Did they have a coal fired boiler underground?? If not why would they send
coal trucks and a loco down there?

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On 10/12/2013 16:23, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:14:05 +0000, Graeme Wall
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On 10/12/2013 15:04,
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:02:57 +0000, Graeme Wall
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On 10/12/2013 09:28,
d wrote:
access to the W&C was via a hoist in Waterloo Yard. W&C stock
could be brought to the surface using the hoist, and AIUI worked under its
own power to Wimbledon Depot for overhaul. The W&C originally had its own
power station, and coal trucks used the hoist to provide power. In 1948 the
lift descended while some trucks were being shunted on to it, and 4 coal
trucks and a loco landed at the bottom of the shaft.

Did they have a coal fired boiler underground??

Yes

If not why would they send
coal trucks and a loco down there?


The loco wasn't supposed to go down.
The steam ones weren't.


Reverting to the original, wasn't it an M7 that did the diving act?


I believe it was , cutting up on site was the most practical means of
removing it. I wonder how the crew got on? being trapped in a lift pit
with steam and smoke everywhere doesn't sound a nice place to be.


Especially having been bounced around the cab on the way down!

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G Harman wrote

I believe it was , cutting up on site was the most practical means of
removing it. I wonder how the crew got on? being trapped in a lift pit
with steam and smoke everywhere doesn't sound a nice place to be.


The driver and fireman managed to jump out before the loco followed the
trucks into the lift shaft - very fortunately, as the loco ended up upside
down on top of the wrecked trucks.

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On 10/12/2013 16:38, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 10/12/2013 16:23, wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:14:05 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 10/12/2013 15:04,
wrote:
On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 10:02:57 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 10/12/2013 09:28,
d wrote:
access to the W&C was via a hoist in Waterloo Yard. W&C stock
could be brought to the surface using the hoist, and AIUI worked
under its
own power to Wimbledon Depot for overhaul. The W&C originally had
its own
power station, and coal trucks used the hoist to provide power.
In 1948 the
lift descended while some trucks were being shunted on to it, and
4 coal
trucks and a loco landed at the bottom of the shaft.

Did they have a coal fired boiler underground??

Yes

If not why would they send
coal trucks and a loco down there?


The loco wasn't supposed to go down.
The steam ones weren't.

Reverting to the original, wasn't it an M7 that did the diving act?


I believe it was , cutting up on site was the most practical means of
removing it. I wonder how the crew got on? being trapped in a lift pit
with steam and smoke everywhere doesn't sound a nice place to be.


Especially having been bounced around the cab on the way down!


I believe they were able to jump off in time.



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