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In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 06:39:29 on Fri, 8 Aug 2014, remarked: Shenfield, while not being a dead-end, is very much the "edge of London" (in a way that nether Harold Wood or Brentwood are) and a lot of trains terminate there (6tph), also in future with Crossrail. You probably know that area a lot better than me but I've never understood why Shenfield has always been the limit of GE Main Line suburban services. Why not Chelmsford, for example? Chelmsford station is on a viaduct and has just two platforms and a turnback siding. It just doesn't have the capacity to reverse many trains, and there was a good enough main line service for those heading for London. To get to intermediate stations it was always "change at Shenfield", which has five platforms. Back in the 70's, which was before Chelmsford's expansion to become a dormitory town, many of the trains terminated at Gidea Park, which was regarded as about as far out as commuters would normally live. But Chelmsford is more like Bishop's Stortford, the West Anglia limit of the 1960s electrification. The fact that Chelmsford would require infrastructure investment wasn't a block then. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 07:01:44 on Fri, 8 Aug 2014, remarked: Perhaps a "2 platforms with bus shelters and a footbridge halt" might need a new lineside cabinet style "equipment room" installed, but that's probably about the limit of exceptional circumstances in such installations. Here's a typical such station, and they manage to have an online TVM (but it's not suitable for barriers at all). http://goo.gl/maps/5Dkw0 2 TVMs by the look of it. I'm sure barriers could be installed if sufficiently desired, given the layout. They'd be "outdoors" which is unusual, and with only 1tph most of the day I doubt it's worth manning the station, which you'd have to do with barriers. 2 trains an hour soon, surely? -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In message , at 07:33:57
on Fri, 8 Aug 2014, remarked: Perhaps a "2 platforms with bus shelters and a footbridge halt" might need a new lineside cabinet style "equipment room" installed, but that's probably about the limit of exceptional circumstances in such installations. Here's a typical such station, and they manage to have an online TVM (but it's not suitable for barriers at all). http://goo.gl/maps/5Dkw0 2 TVMs by the look of it. I'm sure barriers could be installed if sufficiently desired, given the layout. They'd be "outdoors" which is unusual, and with only 1tph most of the day I doubt it's worth manning the station, which you'd have to do with barriers. 2 trains an hour soon, surely? Yes, I suppose so. If both of them stop there of course. But the current pattern is that north-of-Cambridge electrics are all-shacks, so perhaps that'll continue. With presumably yet another stop at Northstowe Parkway. (Another option would be to alternate between the two during the day). -- Roland Perry |
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In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 07:33:57 on Fri, 8 Aug 2014, remarked: Chelmsford station is on a viaduct and has just two platforms and a turnback siding. It just doesn't have the capacity to reverse many trains, and there was a good enough main line service for those heading for London. To get to intermediate stations it was always "change at Shenfield", which has five platforms. Back in the 70's, which was before Chelmsford's expansion to become a dormitory town, many of the trains terminated at Gidea Park, which was regarded as about as far out as commuters would normally live. But Chelmsford is more like Bishop's Stortford, the West Anglia limit of the 1960s electrification. The fact that Chelmsford would require infrastructure investment wasn't a block then. There's no obvious way to increase the size of the station, and the demand wasn't there from the passengers anyway - most were travelling on fast trains to London (the Frinton and Clacton electrics especially) and wouldn't have used a stopping service instead. Was Bishop's Stortford so different? -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote: In message , at 07:33:57 on Fri, 8 Aug 2014, remarked: Perhaps a "2 platforms with bus shelters and a footbridge halt" might need a new lineside cabinet style "equipment room" installed, but that's probably about the limit of exceptional circumstances in such installations. Here's a typical such station, and they manage to have an online TVM (but it's not suitable for barriers at all). http://goo.gl/maps/5Dkw0 2 TVMs by the look of it. I'm sure barriers could be installed if sufficiently desired, given the layout. They'd be "outdoors" which is unusual, and with only 1tph most of the day I doubt it's worth manning the station, which you'd have to do with barriers. 2 trains an hour soon, surely? Yes, I suppose so. If both of them stop there of course. But the current pattern is that north-of-Cambridge electrics are all-shacks, so perhaps that'll continue. With presumably yet another stop at Northstowe Parkway. (Another option would be to alternate between the two during the day). I'm sure all passing trains will stop at Cambridge Science Park station, to give it the correct name) when it opens. There's a clue in the name. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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In message , at 09:58:49
on Fri, 8 Aug 2014, remarked: Perhaps a "2 platforms with bus shelters and a footbridge halt" might need a new lineside cabinet style "equipment room" installed, but that's probably about the limit of exceptional circumstances in such installations. Here's a typical such station, and they manage to have an online TVM (but it's not suitable for barriers at all). http://goo.gl/maps/5Dkw0 2 TVMs by the look of it. I'm sure barriers could be installed if sufficiently desired, given the layout. They'd be "outdoors" which is unusual, and with only 1tph most of the day I doubt it's worth manning the station, which you'd have to do with barriers. 2 trains an hour soon, surely? Yes, I suppose so. If both of them stop there of course. But the current pattern is that north-of-Cambridge electrics are all-shacks, so perhaps that'll continue. With presumably yet another stop at Northstowe Parkway. (Another option would be to alternate between the two during the day). I'm sure all passing trains will stop at Cambridge Science Park station, to give it the correct name) when it opens. There's a clue in the name. There's no particular reason the Cambridge-Norwich trains should stop there, apart from to create a 100% consistent "pattern" (which everyone appears to be able to cope with at Waterbeach). There will be plenty of Cambridge or Ely to Science Park trains already, and I don't think changing at Ely if you are commuting from Lakenheath/Brandon etc is going to inconvenience more than a handful of people. -- Roland Perry |
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