"CJG Now Thankfully Living In The North" wrote in
message om...
For a long story not worth going into I am currently trying to prove
for a client the benefits of using a private car/taxi over public
transport. I am intrested in anyone who lives in London (or any other
major city/Town in the UK or rest of the world) who has access to good
public transport such as buses, trams, trains, underground, other LTR
but still drives to their place of work. Any views, opionions outright
rants agasint public transport inculding the obvious overcrowding,
dirty trains, expense would be appericated.

If you really want that, why did you post here, as opposed to uk.transport ?
To say they prefer cars there is like saying that the desert is a bit dry

RMS

CJG Now Thankfully Living In The North
wrote:

For a long story not worth going into I am currently trying to prove
for a client the benefits of using a private car/taxi over public
transport.

If the story is not worth going into, nor is the answer!

Are you by any chance a used car dealer?

I am intrested in anyone who lives in London (or any other
major city/Town in the UK or rest of the world) who has access to good
public transport such as buses, trams, trains, underground, other LTR
but still drives to their place of work. Any views, opionions outright
rants agasint public transport inculding the obvious overcrowding,
dirty trains, expense would be appericated.

The best reason I've heard was the fake ad on Smack The Pony:
Cars - so much bigger than your average handbag!

Unfortunely spamming and a general distrust agasint anyone asking for
personal details on the internet stops me for being e-mailed directly.

Try writing out your email address and ROT13ing it.

So just post here. Although if you really are anti-public transport I
would like to hear from you and will give you an accessible e-mail
address.

My sister drives everywhere, claiming that buses and trains are too
noisy!

--
Aidan Stanger
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On 10 Feb 2004 06:36:45 -0800, (CJG Now
Thankfully Living In The North) wrote:

For a long story not worth going into I am currently trying to prove
for a client the benefits of using a private car/taxi over public

For a client? Is this a commercial arrangement?

If so, what rewards/prizes are you offering for us to provide you with
opinions and research?

Organisations like YouGov.com *pay* me for my opinions. Research has a
value and you're offering nothing in return.


Cheers,

Jason.

It's been quite a while since I regularly used the tube, but one thing
not to my taste was buskers in the carriages. There were two in
particular: the first was a scruffy yob with a crap guitar who plagued
the Piccadilly line from Heathrow - the incoming tourists loved him
"Gee so this is London's cool music scene"; the second was a
travelling band of Peruvian (?) players in national dress, complete
with drums and panpipes, who used the District line in the central
area, and were quite intrusive when pasing the hat round at the end.

The right place for buskers is at the end of the escalators or in the
interchange areas (not platforms) where you are free to give them
something or not, and are not forced to listen to them for long. ISTR
LUL now has some sort of "Approved Busker" scheme of this nature, but
do you still get the itinerant noise-merchant in the carriages?

Robert Eves wrote:

(snip)

do you still get the itinerant noise-merchant in the carriages?

I have only experienced this on one occasion in London (it's much more
common on the Paris Metro). You are more likely, in my experience, to
encounter beggars, sometimes a woman carrying a child, on tube trains,
though even these are uncommon.

--
John Ray, London UK.

Mail to mefp49 is unlikely to be read. I can be contacted at xcf70 (same
ISP).

In article , Robert Eves wrote:
do you still get the itinerant noise-merchant in the carriages?

Yes, especially on the District Line for some reason. I regularly take
it from East Putney to the City, and I often come across two scruffy
blokes with a guitar and a pair of bongos, who regail the passengers to
such home-grown classics as "You Can't Have A Shave In A Toilet".

I turn up my Minidisc and ignore them as best I can. I like to be left
in peace and quiet when travelling.

--
| grendel [at] durge [dot] org | web technologist | london, uk
| "It's people like you what cause unrest"

In article om,
Grendel writes
In article , Robert Eves wrote:
do you still get the itinerant noise-merchant in the carriages?

Yes, especially on the District Line for some reason. I regularly take
it from East Putney to the City, and I often come across two scruffy
blokes with a guitar and a pair of bongos, who regail the passengers to
such home-grown classics as "You Can't Have A Shave In A Toilet".

I turn up my Minidisc and ignore them as best I can. I like to be left
in peace and quiet when travelling.

There is a major begging problem on the Picc from Heathrow to
Hammersmith with lots of begging gangs working the section of line'

I was going through one of the central London stations last week and
heard an announcement about beggars on the Northern causing service
problems by refusing to leave the train and fighting with Police and LU
staff.

Sorry, can't remember what station I was at - possibly KX?

I think that drivers should make regular announcements re beggars on the
trains asking people not to give money to them.

--
Andrew
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communication can not be guaranteed.
Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not
associations or companies I am involved with.

Andrew P Smith wrote the following in:


I think that drivers should make regular announcements re beggars
on the trains asking people not to give money to them.

I don't! The last thing I want to hear is another routine announcement
on top of the "We are currently operating a good service on..." ones.
Those ones are getting rather annoying, can't they make them only when
there are problems?

--
message by Robin May, enforcer of sod's law.
The Hutton Report is a whitewash! Long live the BBC!

To annoy people in a slow lift: run up the stairs faster than the lift
moves and press the lift call button on each floor.

In article , Robin May
writes
Andrew P Smith wrote the following in:


I think that drivers should make regular announcements re beggars
on the trains asking people not to give money to them.

I don't! The last thing I want to hear is another routine announcement
on top of the "We are currently operating a good service on..." ones.
Those ones are getting rather annoying, can't they make them only when
there are problems?

LU has been heavily criticised in the past for providing no information
to the passengers about problems. I agree with you that there are now
too many announcements about service etc but I feel an on train
announcement re beggars every 20 mins or so would not be amiss.
--
Andrew
Electronic communications can be altered and therefore the integrity of this
communication can not be guaranteed.
Views expressed in this communication are those of the author and not
associations or companies I am involved with.

Robin May wrote:
Andrew P Smith wrote the following in:


I think that drivers should make regular announcements re beggars
on the trains asking people not to give money to them.

I don't! The last thing I want to hear is another routine announcement
on top of the "We are currently operating a good service on..." ones.
Those ones are getting rather annoying, can't they make them only when
there are problems?

Because it's not "customer friendly".