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Why are you changing the subject line? It creates a new thread each
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Only if your news client ignores the "References" field:

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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:19:39 +0100, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:18:24 +0000, e27002 aurora
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Why are you changing the subject line? It creates a new thread each
time you do that. It makes a mess.

Original subject was "By Northern Line to Battersea".


Because readers in misc.transport.urban-transit may not know that the
"Northern Line" and "Battersea" relate to London, England.
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:37:54 +0000, Roland Perry
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In message , at 21:19:39 on
Tue, 29 Dec 2015, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

Why are you changing the subject line? It creates a new thread each
time you do that.


Only if your news client ignores the "References" field:


Which client are you using Roland? I am using Forte Agent.
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:58:07 -0000 (UTC)
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Not exactly as I understand it. They will all go via Bank instead of some
going via Charing Cross.


That's one way of putting it. The other is that all Charing X trains go to
Battersea, with additional trains running via Bank to Morden. Either way,
there will be more stock, and more trains running.


Are these new trains going to be more of the same design or will they be
completely new? One would hope the latter given the current 95 stock are
a 20 year old design.

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Why are you changing the subject line? It creates a new thread each
time you do that.


Only if your news client ignores the "References" field:


Which client are you using Roland? I am using Forte Agent.


It's in the headers (again). Turnpike.
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:19:39 +0100, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:18:24 +0000, e27002 aurora
wrote:

Subject: By Londons Northern Line to Battersea

Why are you changing the subject line? It creates a new thread each
time you do that. It makes a mess.

Original subject was "By Northern Line to Battersea".


Because readers in misc.transport.urban-transit may not know that the
"Northern Line" and "Battersea" relate to London, England.


They probably don't care either and if they did they'd probably already
subscribe to utl.

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"Jarle Hammen Knudsen" wrote

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:18:24 +0000, e27002 aurora

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Subject: By Londons Northern Line to Battersea


Why are you changing the subject line? It creates a new thread each

time you do that. It makes a mess.

Original subject was "By Northern Line to Battersea".


Only if your newsreader wants it that way.

Forte Agent has a profile option to show new thread if subject changes, I
expect you have it ON.

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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:58:07 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
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Not exactly as I understand it. They will all go via Bank instead of some
going via Charing Cross.


That's one way of putting it. The other is that all Charing X trains go to
Battersea, with additional trains running via Bank to Morden. Either way,
there will be more stock, and more trains running.


Are these new trains going to be more of the same design or will they be
completely new? One would hope the latter given the current 95 stock are
a 20 year old design.


Could be either. They'll be required to be externally similar (doors of the
same size, in the same places, same driving controls) but can have more
modern technology underneath. But, given that it won't be a huge order,
Alstom must have a good chance of winning the contest, with an updated
version of the 95 stock. Some of the order will be for the Jubilee line,
which also needs a bigger fleet to support more frequent services.

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On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:46:05 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:58:07 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
Not exactly as I understand it. They will all go via Bank instead of some
going via Charing Cross.

That's one way of putting it. The other is that all Charing X trains go to
Battersea, with additional trains running via Bank to Morden. Either way,
there will be more stock, and more trains running.


Are these new trains going to be more of the same design or will they be
completely new? One would hope the latter given the current 95 stock are
a 20 year old design.


Could be either. They'll be required to be externally similar (doors of the
same size, in the same places, same driving controls) but can have more
modern technology underneath. But, given that it won't be a huge order,
Alstom must have a good chance of winning the contest, with an updated


That would be logical. However TfL and logic are only nodding aquaintances.
I refer you to the 2009 stock that they made too big to run on the piccadilly
line so has to be carted in and out of northumberland park by lorry , then
they go and waste the few inches of extra space with extra thick interior
decor.

version of the 95 stock. Some of the order will be for the Jubilee line,
which also needs a bigger fleet to support more frequent services.


Would be nice if they made them walk through. God knows, the northern line
trains need every bit of extra space they can get in the rush hour.

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