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On 2017-05-29 08:43:37 +0000, Roland Perry said:

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mber.org, at 20:10:12 on Sun, 28 May 2017, Recliner
remarked:

That's why it's not wise to make precise accusations at this stage. Of
course, any professional data centre shouldn't collapse for most of a
day
if there's a power supply problem. It should have UPS

But unlikely to have hours worth of UPS.


If it's business-critical, generators to power for an indefinite period
(provided fuel is added) should be present.


Indeed. Whether it was a UPS failure, a generator failure, a DC bus
failure
or a cat ****ed on the routers, there should have been a backup site to
take over in a situation like this. There wasn't, presumably to cut costs
and that decision comes from the top. Well you reep what you sow. I'd be
very
surprised if Mr Cruz is still in his job this time next month.

On a related note, why the hell do people travel on a bank holiday anyway?
Is that extra free day off work really worth all the stress and hassle of
the train/air/ship delays or the 10 mile traffic jams?


It's been like that for at least 40 years

so obviously some people think that it is

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On Tue, 30 May 2017 12:46:27 +0100
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On Mon, 29 May 2017 15:46:34 +0100
Neil Williams wrote:
On 2017-05-29 08:43:37 +0000, Roland Perry said:

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mber.org, at 20:10:12 on Sun, 28 May 2017, Recliner
remarked:

That's why it's not wise to make precise accusations at this stage. Of
course, any professional data centre shouldn't collapse for most of a
day
if there's a power supply problem. It should have UPS

But unlikely to have hours worth of UPS.

If it's business-critical, generators to power for an indefinite period
(provided fuel is added) should be present.


Indeed. Whether it was a UPS failure, a generator failure, a DC bus
failure
or a cat ****ed on the routers, there should have been a backup site to
take over in a situation like this. There wasn't, presumably to cut costs
and that decision comes from the top. Well you reep what you sow. I'd be
very
surprised if Mr Cruz is still in his job this time next month.

On a related note, why the hell do people travel on a bank holiday anyway?
Is that extra free day off work really worth all the stress and hassle of
the train/air/ship delays or the 10 mile traffic jams?


It's been like that for at least 40 years

so obviously some people think that it is


I suppose when you consider how low the average IQ is then realise that half
the population are even dumber than that I guess it should come as no surprise.

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En el artículo , Scott
escribió:

Are they not claiming it's a power supply issue? Is the hardware
offshore as well?


No, the main DC is in Boadicea House, just to the east of the ends of
the Heathrow runways.

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On 03/06/2017 12:02, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Scott
escribió:

Are they not claiming it's a power supply issue? Is the hardware
offshore as well?


No, the main DC is in Boadicea House, just to the east of the ends of
the Heathrow runways.


So what's over at Waterside?

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En el artículo , Graeme Wall
escribió:

So what's over at Waterside?


Their main HQ, apparently. Suits, finance, customer disservice, etc.


5436,-0.487028,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x5e40cb0e56d6af7b!8m2!3d51.48 543
6!4d-0.487028

The primary datacentre at Boadicea House is a hangover from the days
when BA used to be BOAC.


344,-0.4243124,210m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48767234cdc56de9:0x8fe75 35
543f64167!8m2!3d51.4700223!4d-0.4542955

https://www.architecture.com/image-l...ribapix/image-
information/poster/boadicea-house-boac-computer-building-heathrow-
airport-london/posterid/RIBA62458.html

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2570823057_cc49e1f290_b.jpg

Sorry for the long URLs, I couldn't be arsed tinyurl'ing them.

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Graeme Wall
escribió:

So what's over at Waterside?


Their main HQ, apparently. Suits, finance, customer disservice, etc.


5436,-0.487028,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x5e40cb0e56d6af7b!8m2!3d51.48 543
6!4d-0.487028


And destined to be disappear under the third runway.


The primary datacentre at Boadicea House is a hangover from the days
when BA used to be BOAC.


344,-0.4243124,210m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48767234cdc56de9:0x8fe75 35
543f64167!8m2!3d51.4700223!4d-0.4542955

https://www.architecture.com/image-l...ribapix/image-
information/poster/boadicea-house-boac-computer-building-heathrow-
airport-london/posterid/RIBA62458.html

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2570823057_cc49e1f290_b.jpg

Sorry for the long URLs, I couldn't be arsed tinyurl'ing them.


The reports say two data centres were affected -- I wonder if the other was
BEA's?

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Recliner wrote:

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Graeme Wall
escribió:

So what's over at Waterside?


Their main HQ, apparently. Suits, finance, customer disservice, etc.


5436,-0.487028,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x5e40cb0e56d6af7b!8m2!3d51.48 543
6!4d-0.487028


And destined to be disappear under the third runway.


I don't think they were expecting that. ;-)

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On 03/06/2017 15:03, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Graeme Wall
escribió:

So what's over at Waterside?


Their main HQ, apparently. Suits, finance, customer disservice, etc.


5436,-0.487028,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x5e40cb0e56d6af7b!8m2!3d51.48 543
6!4d-0.487028

The primary datacentre at Boadicea House is a hangover from the days
when BA used to be BOAC.


Wasn't Boadicea the name of BOAC's first computer IIRC?



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On 03/06/2017 15:10, Recliner wrote:
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artÃ*culo , Graeme Wall
escribió:

So what's over at Waterside?


Their main HQ, apparently. Suits, finance, customer disservice, etc.


5436,-0.487028,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x5e40cb0e56d6af7b!8m2!3d51.48 543
6!4d-0.487028


And destined to be disappear under the third runway.


The primary datacentre at Boadicea House is a hangover from the days
when BA used to be BOAC.


344,-0.4243124,210m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x48767234cdc56de9:0x8fe75 35
543f64167!8m2!3d51.4700223!4d-0.4542955

https://www.architecture.com/image-l...ribapix/image-
information/poster/boadicea-house-boac-computer-building-heathrow-
airport-london/posterid/RIBA62458.html

https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/2570823057_cc49e1f290_b.jpg

Sorry for the long URLs, I couldn't be arsed tinyurl'ing them.


The reports say two data centres were affected -- I wonder if the other was
BEA's?


Not sure that BEA had one in the modern sense.

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In uk.railway Recliner wrote:
The reports say two data centres were affected -- I wonder if the other was
BEA's?


Probably not, that was on top of the Circle & District:
https://rbkclocalstudies.wordpress.c...-air-terminal/

Theo


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