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In message , at 12:28:45 on Tue, 18 Dec
2018, Graeme Wall remarked:

This whole thread is going off at cross purposes. When the adverts
say you can take smartphone payments without a machine, they mean one
of those DECT-phone sized dedicated machines with a thermal printer
(hold that thought).


The offering is a cardreader that plugs into a smartphone.
But how does one print a receipt??


email.


Yet another example of externalising costs to the consumer, and
gathering data (email address) for someone the hack into.
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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:26:08 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 18/12/2018 11:37, wrote:
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 11:13:46 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 18/12/2018 09:42,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 16:31:59 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 17/12/2018 16:19,
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Dec 2018 15:37:46 +0000
Robin wrote:
Meanwhile vast swathes of both the public and private sectors are
operating in the 21st century with employees placing orders and making
payments online. Eg use of payment cards was common when I retired 13
years ago. There were naturally limits on how much could be charged on

A lot of sole traders don't want the hassle or the fees from lugging a

card

machine around when they go to jobs.


Don't need a separate machine, there are smart phone apps that will do
the job now.

How does a smartphone app read chip and pin then? Not all cards are
contactless and not all phones have NFC.


Few smart phones don't have it now and the number of non-contactless


Really? ITYF most don't.


What smart phones currently on the market don't have it?


Pretty much all PAYG phones and anything a hundred quid or less which is a
large part of the market. Just because you might pay the Cupertino idiot tax
either directly or getting stiffed for 150% of it via a contract, don't assume
everyone else is the same.

Still a 30 quid limit. Useless for almost all tradesmens jobs anyway.


Apple/Android Pay don't have that limit.


Big deal. How many people use those? Or would even want to frankly.



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On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:28:45 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 18/12/2018 12:13, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:37:25 on Tue, 18 Dec
2018, remarked:
Meanwhile vast swathes of both the public and private sectors are
operating in the 21st century with employees placing orders and
making
payments online.* Eg use of payment cards was common when I
retired 13
years ago.* There were naturally limits on how much could be
charged on

A lot of sole traders don't want the hassle or the fees from
lugging a card

machine around when they go to jobs.


Don't need a separate machine, there are smart phone apps that will do
the job now.

How does a smartphone app read chip and pin then? Not all cards are
contactless and not all phones have NFC.

Few smart phones don't have it now and the number of non-contactless

Really? ITYF most don't.

cards is diminishing rapidly.

Still a 30 quid limit. Useless for almost all tradesmens jobs anyway.


This whole thread is going off at cross purposes. When the adverts say
you can take smartphone payments without a machine, they mean one of
those DECT-phone sized dedicated machines with a thermal printer (hold
that thought).

The offering is a cardreader that plugs into a smartphone.

But how does one print a receipt??


email.


Sure, just hand over your email address to Mr Random Tradesman. Brilliant idea.

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On 18/12/2018 12:28, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 18/12/2018 12:13, Roland Perry wrote:


But how does one print a receipt??


email.


Bluetooth printers are relatively easily available - you can even get
battery powered ones.

A quick look on a well known internet shop shows availability from £35
or so.
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Graeme Wall wrote:

Apple/Android Pay don't have that limit.


I wasn't allowed to use Android (now Google) Pay at Tesco for a transaction over
30. Terminal declined it.


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