"gs" wrote in message
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Its because you are the human face of the underground and when
things dont work as best as they could your attitude is poor. You should
visit the French
Underground or the one in Berlin. Now thats how it shoud be done.

Yes, the Paris Metro was *so* wonderful during my visit last year I've
decided to ensure my stations have no down escalators, no staff, queues at
the ticket office out the door, stink and trains with squeaky wheels.

On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:28:08 +0100, Robin Mayes
wrote:

Yes, the Paris Metro was *so* wonderful during my visit last year I've
decided to ensure my stations have no down escalators, no staff, queues
at the ticket office out the door, stink and trains with squeaky wheels.

Nothing new here then. At the end of the day the London underground is
crap. Good idea badly implimented by greedy management and staff who
dont give a monkeys.

Dirty trains - which wouldnt take much to make them clean
If I was in charge of carriage hygiene I would sack
every single cleaner and make them re apply for their jobs
back and only get re employed once they can prove they can
control a cleaning cloth well enough to reach the corners of the windows.
Also ban eating on the underground. Ok a bit harsh but
would eventually lead to a cleaner underground similar to
what banning smoking did.

Ticket Halls. During peak times ensure that all windows are open
probably have a dedicated oyster and credit card window or the
opposite have a fast track window for small single / return ticket
cash purchases only. make sure the vending machines are working
and full of change and possibly place a few at platform level
to spread out the queues of people waiting to purchase.


Trains - make it compulsory for drivers to announce why a train
has stopped and the approximate length the stoppage should be.
Also by default if a train is stopped in a tunnel the huge fans
that they have stuck to the ceiling should be switched on
not 45 minutes later like the train I was on when it was stuck in a tunnel
between Highbury Corner and Kings X.

Talking about kings cross circle and metropolitan branch why is the
stream of passengers set the wrong way round??

to board a train you have to walk what seems quarter of a mile
up through the ticket hall. why cant they reverse this so if you are
boarding
you go through the nearest set of gates and passengers exiting
use the exits further up?




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"gs" wrote in message
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Talking about kings cross circle and metropolitan branch why is the
stream of passengers set the wrong way round??
to board a train you have to walk what seems quarter of a mile
up through the ticket hall. why cant they reverse this so if you are
boarding
you go through the nearest set of gates and passengers exiting
use the exits further up?

It's not wrong. If the entrance was at the eastern end of the platforms,
there would be massive congestion as all the lemming passengers waited there
instead of using the full length of the platform. Also, the the loading of
trains in both directions on this section is such that the eastern end is
generally more crowded - with many of these passengers wishing to alight at
K+. The current arrangement (i) allows these passengers to leave the
platform quickly, and, (ii) prevents the crowded part of trains from
becoming even more crowded.

gs wrote in message ...
Also ban eating on the underground. Ok a bit harsh but
would eventually lead to a cleaner underground similar to
what banning smoking did.

I wouldn't ban eating on the tube since I think most people do it occasionally
if they're in a hurry , I know I have (and where do you draw the line , do
you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a biscuit?) but I
do think its time that LU started reintroducing bins. Theres no reason not to
have then since as we've seen terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos these
days.

B2003

On 4 Jun 2004 01:50:12 -0700, Boltar wrote:

gs wrote in message
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Also ban eating on the underground. Ok a bit harsh but
would eventually lead to a cleaner underground similar to
what banning smoking did.

I wouldn't ban eating on the tube since I think most people do it
occasionally
if they're in a hurry , I know I have (and where do you draw the line ,
do
you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a biscuit?) but I
do think its time that LU started reintroducing bins. Theres no reason
not to
have then since as we've seen terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos
these
days.

B2003

I see your point but I many times have boarded a train
where hot smelly food has been eaten recently and forget the pong,
the rubbish left behind is disgusting.

Also had the misfortune to watch a small child eating a burger
on the train. The mayonnaise was oozing out of the burger and the child
was wiping it on the seats next to him whilst his mother was smiling
adoringly. Great news if you happen to sit next to him not.

If they banned hot food would be a start. Hard to enforce as people could
sneak food
onto the train but in the same way passengers would intervene if someone
lit a cigarette, peole could mention and try to discourage it.

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do
you kick someone off for eating a polo mint? What about a biscuit?) but
I
do think its time that LU started reintroducing bins. Theres no reason
not to
have then since as we've seen terrorist hardly need them to cause chaos
these
days.

B2003



Also had the misfortune to watch a small child eating a burger
on the train. The mayonnaise was oozing out of the burger and the child
was wiping it on the seats next to him whilst his mother was smiling
adoringly. Great news if you happen to sit next to him not.



Yeah but I've seen small children on the tube with snot oozing out all over
with him wiping it on the seat. Tell you what lets ban small children? (It
would also cut down on overcrowding!)

Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all
this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for not
taking their rubbish home with them.

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 15:27:08 +0100, "JB"
wrote:

Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all
this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for not
taking their rubbish home with them.


They have litter bins in Israel and (AFAIAA) they have developed a
relatively bomb-proof one.....
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 18:28:30 +0100, Cheeky wrote:

They have litter bins in Israel and (AFAIAA) they have developed a
relatively bomb-proof one.....

The big railway seems to have taken to using clear plastic bin bags
hanging from a loop, which may not exactly be bomb-proof but will
avoid any additional shrapnel, and hopefully any device would be
visible.

Neil

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In article , JB
writes

Yeah but I've seen small children on the tube with snot oozing out all over
with him wiping it on the seat. Tell you what lets ban small children? (It
would also cut down on overcrowding!)


Excellent idea......

Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through all
this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for not
taking their rubbish home with them.

Blast resistant bins are available, but they will only resist a set
pressure level.
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"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
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In article , JB
writes

Yeah but I've seen small children on the tube with snot oozing out all
over
with him wiping it on the seat. Tell you what lets ban small children?
(It
would also cut down on overcrowding!)


Excellent idea......

Can't bins be made bomb proof? I thought that Westminster went through
all
this and in the end put them back. I certainly don't blame people for
not
taking their rubbish home with them.

Blast resistant bins are available, but they will only resist a set
pressure level.

Of course you could chain all those surplus to requirement small children to
the blast proof bins to absorb any overpressure...:-)
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