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On Fri, 28 May 2004 12:30:01 +0100, captain radio
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I would like to see any of my staff siting in 'kiosk' and reading the
sun.Why don't you try standing on your feet for 7+ hours a day and
dealing
with customers from stupid to plain obnoxious.People who think a uniform
is
soft target and they can vent all there anger and agression on.Working
all
hours to take home a decent working wage, if it is such a cushy number
why
are there not people desperate to join?

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
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32 hour, 4 day week?

I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!!


But sitting in a kiosk reading The Sun is a tiring job.

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Oh please
How many times have people been to a tube station and there is a queue
stretching out the door. 2 out of the three payment windows
are closed and the person serving has trouble performing
even the most basic task of processing an oyster card application
with any speed or haste plus all the automated machines are broken
or have no change. Whats worse there are other staff having a chat and a
coffee
and smirking at the length of the queues.

You moan on about the abuse you get, why do you think that is?

Its because you are the human face of the underground and when
things dont work as best as they could your attitude is poor. You should
visit the French
Underground or the one in Berlin. Now thats how it shoud be done.

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On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:55:52 +0100, Kat
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Two smaller breaks should be included in the working day; eight hours
plus on your feet with only a half hour unpaid meal-break is medieval.


I thought in most jobs meal breaks are unpaid? Certainly in all jobs
I've done.
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 00:08:21 +0100, "captain radio"
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As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london
underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a
landslide in favour of industrial action.


Oh jolly good - I'm sure you will enjoy inflicting misery on Londoners.

Oh and it's "rank and file" by the way.

The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger
out.


How to win friends and influence people (not).

The management are proposing cuts of 960 plus jobs to fund any sort of pay
increase and to give us our 35 hour week,these are front line jobs in the
ticket office ,station staff and supervisors,not the over staffed 55
broadway and other top management jobs.


Are we excluded from your sweeping statement if we don't work at 55
Broadway?

Our claim is simply £22.000 starting salary for C.S.A,32 hour 4 day week to
be implimented over a number of years ,35 hour parity with train ops now.
Equalisation of pension rights,return of priv rate travel as per pre
national rail privatisation.
Roll on June 10th


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Ken? And if Ken wins you think you will? Dream on - you really have no
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"Andrew P Smith" wrote in message
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32 hour, 4 day week?

I do 32 hours in 3 days!!!!!


But sitting in a kiosk reading The Sun is a tiring job.

LOL!!!!

Naughty John.
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How many times have people been to a tube station and there is a queue
stretching out the door. 2 out of the three payment windows
are closed and the person serving has trouble performing
even the most basic task of processing an oyster card application
with any speed or haste plus all the automated machines are broken
or have no change. Whats worse there are other staff having a chat and
a coffee
and smirking at the length of the queues.

You moan on about the abuse you get, why do you think that is?


There are specific exams to be taken to work in the ticket office - if
you haven't passed it you can't handle the cash.

I agree that ticket machines failing is a real pain.
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Its because you are the human face of the underground and when
things dont work as best as they could your attitude is poor. You should
visit the French
Underground or the one in Berlin. Now thats how it shoud be done.


Yes, the Paris Metro was *so* wonderful during my visit last year I've
decided to ensure my stations have no down escalators, no staff, queues at
the ticket office out the door, stink and trains with squeaky wheels.


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"captain radio" wrote in message
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As you are all probably aware a ballot for strike action on london
underground is currently under way and the rankin file opinion is a
landslide in favour of industrial action.
The first strike date will be june 10th unless 'sir Ken' pulls his finger
out.


Tell you what

Just vote thae Mad ******* out instead

Ordinary Londoners have already suffered enough under his regin, don't whip
the servants shoot the master(bater)

innit


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On Fri, 28 May 2004 21:28:08 +0100, Robin Mayes
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Yes, the Paris Metro was *so* wonderful during my visit last year I've
decided to ensure my stations have no down escalators, no staff, queues
at the ticket office out the door, stink and trains with squeaky wheels.


Nothing new here then. At the end of the day the London underground is
crap. Good idea badly implimented by greedy management and staff who
dont give a monkeys.

Dirty trains - which wouldnt take much to make them clean
If I was in charge of carriage hygiene I would sack
every single cleaner and make them re apply for their jobs
back and only get re employed once they can prove they can
control a cleaning cloth well enough to reach the corners of the windows.
Also ban eating on the underground. Ok a bit harsh but
would eventually lead to a cleaner underground similar to
what banning smoking did.

Ticket Halls. During peak times ensure that all windows are open
probably have a dedicated oyster and credit card window or the
opposite have a fast track window for small single / return ticket
cash purchases only. make sure the vending machines are working
and full of change and possibly place a few at platform level
to spread out the queues of people waiting to purchase.


Trains - make it compulsory for drivers to announce why a train
has stopped and the approximate length the stoppage should be.
Also by default if a train is stopped in a tunnel the huge fans
that they have stuck to the ceiling should be switched on
not 45 minutes later like the train I was on when it was stuck in a tunnel
between Highbury Corner and Kings X.

Talking about kings cross circle and metropolitan branch why is the
stream of passengers set the wrong way round??

to board a train you have to walk what seems quarter of a mile
up through the ticket hall. why cant they reverse this so if you are
boarding
you go through the nearest set of gates and passengers exiting
use the exits further up?




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"gs" wrote in message
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Talking about kings cross circle and metropolitan branch why is the
stream of passengers set the wrong way round??
to board a train you have to walk what seems quarter of a mile
up through the ticket hall. why cant they reverse this so if you are
boarding
you go through the nearest set of gates and passengers exiting
use the exits further up?


It's not wrong. If the entrance was at the eastern end of the platforms,
there would be massive congestion as all the lemming passengers waited there
instead of using the full length of the platform. Also, the the loading of
trains in both directions on this section is such that the eastern end is
generally more crowded - with many of these passengers wishing to alight at
K+. The current arrangement (i) allows these passengers to leave the
platform quickly, and, (ii) prevents the crowded part of trains from
becoming even more crowded.


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On Fri, 28 May 2004 10:55:52 +0100, Kat
wrote:

Two smaller breaks should be included in the working day; eight hours
plus on your feet with only a half hour unpaid meal-break is medieval.


I thought in most jobs meal breaks are unpaid? Certainly in all jobs
I've done.


Your right although the point being made is that outside of the
statutory break required by Law, they have no other breaks.

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