"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
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Surely every sort of weather is blamed on global warming, whether hot,
cold, wet, dry or anything in between? I'm told that in the USA, all
weather is blamed on El Nino or La Nina - here, of course, those
particular phenomena are also blamed on global warming!

There is NO doubt at all about Globalwarming otherwise we would still be in
the last Iceage. Having said that it rained extremely hard yesterday
(Wednesday) evening in Bolton. If we then compare this with the day I passed
my driving test which was a Wednesday afternoon in August 1967. It also
rained so heavily for the windscreen wipers on my Reliant Mk5 that I had to
take refuge under a railway bridge in Preston (Returning from Blackpool).
Therefore I conclude that the "peak" of the globalwarming cycle has passed
and we are now on a downwards spiral to the next Iceage. By eck its
cowd up t'north!

KW

"KW" wrote in message ...
"Annabel Smyth" wrote in message
...
Surely every sort of weather is blamed on global warming, whether hot,
cold, wet, dry or anything in between? I'm told that in the USA, all
weather is blamed on El Nino or La Nina - here, of course, those
particular phenomena are also blamed on global warming!

There is NO doubt at all about Globalwarming otherwise we would still be in
the last Iceage. Having said that it rained extremely hard yesterday
(Wednesday) evening in Bolton. If we then compare this with the day I passed
my driving test which was a Wednesday afternoon in August 1967. It also
rained so heavily for the windscreen wipers on my Reliant Mk5 that I had to
take refuge under a railway bridge in Preston (Returning from Blackpool).
Therefore I conclude that the "peak" of the globalwarming cycle has passed
and we are now on a downwards spiral to the next Iceage. By eck its
cowd up t'north!

KW

I did about global warming in Geography at A level but can't remember
the specifics (must be because I killed a few brain cels celebrating
on Thursday night) so I won't try to sound clever by trying to
contribute to the signs of global warming.

What I will say is that we've been having some fairly extreme weather
in the north west (and the rest of the country for that matter). As
the weather forecast described it, the conditions have been cyclonic.
What I thought I'd put on the topic of extreme weather was that I
witnessed a rather interesting but at the same time unnerving sight on
my way home last night. There was a tornado trying to form over where
I live at about 9 o'clock yesterday evening. It started off as a tube
coming out of the cloud at an angle of about 35 degrees. It then
formed a funnel shape but dispersed. It then managed to reform itself
but now heading straight downwards. You could see the bottom of it
heading further down from the clouds and you could see it starting to
look like the classic funnel shape. At the same time you could watch
it moving across the base of the cloud - it was easily visible because
it looked light grey against the greenish looking cloud that it was
coming out of.

Fortunately it dispersed before getting too far towards the ground and
so I'm sure people directly underneath it were oblivious to its
presence.
Still, this is a sight that I've never witnessed before and wouldn't
want to witness again in any hurry. What I'd be interested to know is
how regular are these sort of events (bearing in mind that had this
tornado actually got to the ground, I would say it looked more
powerful than an F1). Do these monsters get to a point where they are
self sustaining? This one certainly appeared to be 'trying' to work
itself up to something.

"Lukipela" wrote in message
m...

There was a tornado trying to form over where
I live at about 9 o'clock yesterday evening.

I saw one of these when I was in the Lake District in approx 1980. It looked
to reach all the way to the ground, but I was a long way off, so I can't be
sure. I wouldn't worry too much about it, I don't think they have much power
when they form at British latitudes.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:17:52 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

"Lukipela" wrote in message
om...

There was a tornado trying to form over where
I live at about 9 o'clock yesterday evening.

I saw one of these when I was in the Lake District in approx 1980. It looked
to reach all the way to the ground, but I was a long way off, so I can't be
sure. I wouldn't worry too much about it, I don't think they have much power
when they form at British latitudes.

Apparently there are an average of 33 tornados per year in the UK
and taking into account land area the UK has the highest number
of reported tornados per square kilometer of any country in the
world.
See
http://www.torro.org.uk/
Fore more information.

Peter Harris
--
The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and
stupidity.

Peter Harris wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:17:52 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

"Lukipela" wrote in message
om...

There was a tornado trying to form over where
I live at about 9 o'clock yesterday evening.

I saw one of these when I was in the Lake District in approx 1980. It looked
to reach all the way to the ground, but I was a long way off, so I can't be
sure. I wouldn't worry too much about it, I don't think they have much power
when they form at British latitudes.

Apparently there are an average of 33 tornados per year in the UK
and taking into account land area the UK has the highest number
of reported tornados per square kilometer of any country in the
world.
See
http://www.torro.org.uk/
Fore more information.

Peter Harris

That's an interesting statistic. I would be interested to know if
their numbers are on the increase.
What was odd about the one that I saw gathering strength on Friday was
the fact that the weather hadn't been extreme during the day - i.e. it
wasn't really hot and had suddenly gone cold.
I don't know much about the conditions needed for them to form - but I
would guess the conditions have to be fairly extreme...something which
was not the case on Friday.

"John Rowland" wrote in message
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"Lukipela" wrote in message
m...

There was a tornado trying to form over where
I live at about 9 o'clock yesterday evening.

I saw one of these when I was in the Lake District in approx 1980. It
looked
to reach all the way to the ground, but I was a long way off, so I can't
be
sure. I wouldn't worry too much about it, I don't think they have much
power
when they form at British latitudes.

Enough, say, to take the roof off a domestic garage, and it wouldn't do you
much good if it dropped the roof on top of you.

Going back on topic, it's recorded that a tornado took the roof off
Gunnersbury station on 8 December 1954 - though the record is presumably
wrong (it must have been some other variety of storm) as tornados are a
Summer phenomenon).
Peter