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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
In message , purple pete
writes Now don't get me started on those who use the bus lanes when they shouldn't :-)) What make me laugh is people who DON'T use bus lanes when they SHOULD ;-) I think they're great as they leave plenty of space for me in my taxi :-) The trouble is that there are so many variations in the times and authorise vehicles for the bus lanes that it gets very confusing, even for us professionals. There are some lanes in the city where taxis are excluded, even though we are allowed in nearly all of the others. I think that's why so many people keep out of them even during times when they can legally use them. -- Mike Hughes A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
I think I recall a lady who failed her driving test for NOT using a bus lane
outside of prohibited hrs. They have just removed a bus lane cam near here as it was making £1M - yes thats right, £1M - locals went mad when they found out - its position was very bad too which caused alot of people to get caught out - and to be fair knowing the area and the junction it was in a silly place. |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
"purple pete" typed
I think I recall a lady who failed her driving test for NOT using a bus lane outside of prohibited hrs. They have just removed a bus lane cam near here as it was making £1M - yes thats right, £1M - locals went mad when they found out - its position was very bad too which caused alot of people to get caught out - and to be fair knowing the area and the junction it was in a silly place. You live local to me &ICM£5 -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
In article , purple pete
writes They have just removed a bus lane cam near here as it was making £1M - yes thats right, £1M Over what period? Assuming the fine is £100, that's 10 *thousand* people being caught. If that amount is measured over a year and the lane operates 6 days a week, that's 33 people a day or perhaps 3 an hour. - locals went mad when they found out What, at how many of them misuse the bus lane? - its position was very bad too which caused alot of people to get caught out - and to be fair knowing the area and the junction it was in a silly place. Either it covered a bus lane or it didn't. If it did, then what's the beef? If it didn't, then surely someone would have appealed in very short order, meaning that it would *not* have "made" the amounts suggested. -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
"Clive D. W. Feather" typed
In article , purple pete writes They have just removed a bus lane cam near here as it was making £1M - yes thats right, £1M Over what period? Assuming the fine is £100, that's 10 *thousand* people being caught. If that amount is measured over a year and the lane operates 6 days a week, that's 33 people a day or perhaps 3 an hour. - locals went mad when they found out What, at how many of them misuse the bus lane? No, at the scale of the money involved ;-) - its position was very bad too which caused alot of people to get caught out - and to be fair knowing the area and the junction it was in a silly place. Either it covered a bus lane or it didn't. If it did, then what's the beef? If it didn't, then surely someone would have appealed in very short order, meaning that it would *not* have "made" the amounts suggested. If purple is discussing the camera I think he is, it was £800,000 over a year. That's 20-30 per day, which doesn't sound quite so dramatic! The bus lane operates from 7-10 am and 4-7pm IIRC. It was on the A5 High Street Edgware/Burnt Oak Broadway on (Southbound I think) approach to the traffic lights at its junction with Deansbrook Road/Camrose Avenue. Traffic which does not wish to turn right tends to avoid the queues by diving into the bus lane. There are several car dealerships near the junction. There are many petrol hotheads round here... -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
In article , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes If purple is discussing the camera I think he is, it was £800,000 over a year. That's 20-30 per day, which doesn't sound quite so dramatic! The bus lane operates from 7-10 am and 4-7pm IIRC. So roughly one offender every 15 minutes. Traffic which does not wish to turn right tends to avoid the queues by diving into the bus lane. And then whinges when it gets snapped doing so, right? So perhaps Mr purple can explain what the problem is? -- Clive D.W. Feather | Home: Tel: +44 20 8495 6138 (work) | Web: http://www.davros.org Fax: +44 870 051 9937 | Work: Please reply to the Reply-To address, which is: |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
"Clive D. W. Feather" typed
In article , Helen Deborah Vecht writes If purple is discussing the camera I think he is, it was £800,000 over a year. That's 20-30 per day, which doesn't sound quite so dramatic! The bus lane operates from 7-10 am and 4-7pm IIRC. So roughly one offender every 15 minutes. Traffic which does not wish to turn right tends to avoid the queues by diving into the bus lane. And then whinges when it gets snapped doing so, right? Yup! Didddums... So perhaps Mr purple can explain what the problem is? I passed the area on a bus recently and think the bus lane opposite is full-time so the contentious one might be too. I apologise if I inadvertantly posted misinformation. 30 snaps a day might seemingly represent a lot of cash, but it's not really much traffic, given the traffic flow, is it? -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote in message
... Traffic which does not wish to turn right tends to avoid the queues by diving into the bus lane. And then whinges when it gets snapped doing so, right? So perhaps Mr purple can explain what the problem is? The problem is that bus lane cameras are not billed as "A solution to the problem of cars undertaking right-turners", they are billed as "A solution to the problem of buses being held up by traffic". Placing the camera where it will fine cars undertaking right-turners is dishonest immoral taxation. I don't see why bus lanes shouldn't be treated like box junctions - no-one should be fined unless they actually stop in one. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
John Rowland wrote:
"Clive D. W. Feather" wrote... Traffic which does not wish to turn right tends to avoid the queues by diving into the bus lane. And then whinges when it gets snapped doing so, right? So perhaps Mr purple can explain what the problem is? The problem is that bus lane cameras are not billed as "A solution to the problem of cars undertaking right-turners", they are billed as "A solution to the problem of buses being held up by traffic". Placing the camera where it will fine cars undertaking right-turners is dishonest immoral taxation. I don't see why bus lanes shouldn't be treated like box junctions - no-one should be fined unless they actually stop in one. Aside from the obvious problem of cars getting trapped behind stopped buses, there's the problem of buses being held up by cars moving at a crawl to avoid having to actually stop! |
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Unenforced traffic ban on oxford street
"Mike Hughes" wrote in message
... The trouble is that there are so many variations in the times and authorise vehicles for the bus lanes that it gets very confusing, even for us professionals. Perhaps, but I tend to avoid using bus lanes because you invariably end up coming across obstructions like stopped buses or parked cars, and have to then merge into an unsympathetic line of traffic. I can't be bothered with the hassle of this, plus the risk of accident / general increase in stress levels - if only most people in London drove with such calmness! Of course, when I'm cycling round London it's another matter! |
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