On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:15:34 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 16:38:36 on Sun, 20
Feb 2005, Brimstone remarked:
I don't see that anyone is saying the Highway Code is infallible, merely
that is is the first document that is referred to by the general public when
clarification of the rules is needed.

Peter appears to be claiming that *all* roads with streetlights are
30mph (unless otherwise marked), because it says so in the HC. The HC is
misleading, for the reasons I've already given.

No I'm not saying that, nor that the Highway Code is infallible. The
code refers you to the relevant law for definitions specifically the
Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, which says that the road is
restricted if it is illuminated by lamps not more than 200 yards apart
(Its not on line as far as I can tell).

The detailed regulations about signing go into the statutory
instruments and the latest seems to be The Traffic Signs Regulations
and General Directions 2002 which goes into excruciating detail and
makes the distance (for the purpose of deciding if speed limit
repeaters is required 183 meters (185 in Scotland) and helpfully adds
that the lights must be electrically powered.

So if we are going to be fussy there are three situations in England
and Wales where there will not be speed limit repeater signs.

1. Non-motorway with street lights (less than 183m apart) 30mph
2. Non-motorway without lighting (or lights further than 183m) apart
national speed limit (60mph on a single carriageway 70mph on dual)
3. Motorway 70mph


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Peter Sumner