Where were the bombers intending to go ? Especially as there could have
been more of them as mentioned elsewhere on this group. They were all going
from KX.

If we assume the Aldgate and Edgware Road bombers travelled on their correct
route with a journey time of 8 minutes, where should the others have ended
up?

I think the walk to the Pic, Vic & North platforms is longer ?

The Piccadilly line was disrupted. 6 minutes south of KX takes you to
Leicester Square.

The Northern line was suspended. 6 minutes south would take you to
Moorgate. 6 minutes north would take you to Camden Town.

The Victoria line was OK I think. 6 minutes south would take you to Oxford
Circus.


All of these stations are key sections and could have crippled the LU
network totally.

The Camden Town hit would certainly fit with the web statement which
mentioned the 4 parts of London (was it north, east, south, west).

"Simon" typed


Where were the bombers intending to go ?

To heaven. The rest is academic.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

In message , Simon
writes

Where were the bombers intending to go ?

Paradise (or so they believed).

--
Paul Terry

On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:24:06 +0000 (UTC), "Simon"
wrote:

Where were the bombers intending to go ?

It *really* does *not* matter. They got to 4 places on this earth - that
is quite enough for us and the poor victims and their families to be
going on with.
--
Paul C


Admits to working for London Underground!

Simon wrote:
Where were the bombers intending to go ? Especially as there could have
been more of them as mentioned elsewhere on this group. They were all going
from KX.

They all travelled to where they intended to go. The first three bombed
lines going east, west and south out of King's Cross, and the fourth
blew up a bus which was supposed to be at King's Cross to pick up people
who were streaming out of the station because of the prior bombs. It
was a "herding" type attack. Herd everyone to a spot and then explode a
bomb at that spot. They do the same type of thing when they set bombs
in Iraq to catch cops and rescue workers and others coming to the aid of
people hurt in a first explosion.

Hopefully, too, after the explosions they all went directly to Hell.

Ed

In message , at 12:12:55 on Thu, 14 Jul
2005, Ed Lake remarked:
the fourth blew up a bus which was supposed to be at King's Cross to
pick up people who were streaming out of the station because of the
prior bombs.

Still streaming out of the station an hour later? That's not very
likely. If the bus bomb had gone off 5-10 minutes after 8.50, perhaps.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:12:55 on Thu, 14 Jul
2005, Ed Lake remarked:
the fourth blew up a bus which was supposed to be at King's Cross to
pick up people who were streaming out of the station because of the
prior bombs.

Still streaming out of the station an hour later? That's not very
likely. If the bus bomb had gone off 5-10 minutes after 8.50, perhaps.

5-10 minutes would have been unlikely to be enough, but an hour feels a
bit too long to be a pre-planned herding attack.

IMO the plan is likely to have been to detonate on the junction
immediately south of Camden Town (at the point where the two lines come
together ever so briefly, so you can screw up every piece of the
Northern Line). If you see the Edgware Road pictures, you can see that
the bomb exploded right over the points of Praed Street Junction, and
of course the King's Cross bomb went up at the one and only place where
they could shut the Picc all the way from HPC to Arnos Grove.

I'm certainly open to the possibility that the fourth bomb was a
pre-planned herding attack, but given how precisely the other bombs
detonated at points designed for maximum network screw-up, I think
Camden Town is more likely. It sounds very much like the police don't
know either.

If I had to guess, I'd venture that the fourth bomber went down to the
Northern Line, saw it was shut, implemented Plan B (Victoria to Euston
and pick up the Charing X branch there), got stuck at Euston because of
the network shutdown, wandered about a bit, got on the 30 and suddenly
realized he could get his 72 virgins on the bus because it was so
packed. But that's just my guess -- who knows what the real story was.

On 15 Jul 2005 16:29:47 -0700, "Alistair Bell"
wrote:



Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:12:55 on Thu, 14 Jul
2005, Ed Lake remarked:
the fourth blew up a bus which was supposed to be at King's Cross to
pick up people who were streaming out of the station because of the
prior bombs.

Still streaming out of the station an hour later? That's not very
likely. If the bus bomb had gone off 5-10 minutes after 8.50, perhaps.

5-10 minutes would have been unlikely to be enough, but an hour feels a
bit too long to be a pre-planned herding attack.

IMO the plan is likely to have been to detonate on the junction
immediately south of Camden Town (at the point where the two lines come
together ever so briefly, so you can screw up every piece of the
Northern Line). If you see the Edgware Road pictures, you can see that
the bomb exploded right over the points of Praed Street Junction, and
of course the King's Cross bomb went up at the one and only place where
they could shut the Picc all the way from HPC to Arnos Grove.

I'm certainly open to the possibility that the fourth bomb was a
pre-planned herding attack, but given how precisely the other bombs
detonated at points designed for maximum network screw-up, I think
Camden Town is more likely. It sounds very much like the police don't
know either.

If I had to guess, I'd venture that the fourth bomber went down to the
Northern Line, saw it was shut, implemented Plan B (Victoria to Euston
and pick up the Charing X branch there), got stuck at Euston because of
the network shutdown, wandered about a bit, got on the 30 and suddenly
realized he could get his 72 virgins on the bus because it was so
packed. But that's just my guess -- who knows what the real story was.

To be honest, I don't buy much of this, for the simple reason that the
three Underground bombs went off within something like a 50 second
time-frame. I think it's a pure fluke that they exploded where they
did, as it would be virtually impossible to deliberately time them to
do that.
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Nick Cooper wrote:
To be honest, I don't buy much of this, for the simple reason that the
three Underground bombs went off within something like a 50 second
time-frame. I think it's a pure fluke that they exploded where they
did, as it would be virtually impossible to deliberately time them to
do that.
--
Nick Cooper

I have to agree with you Nick. I find it highly unlikely the bombers
studied the track diagrams of the Underground and chose locations that
would cause maximum damage, I just think they were time synchronised
explosions. Of course, a question can be asked of why the Picadilly
line bomber only got as far as he did. And the bus bomber may well have
been aiming for the Northern Line then adopted a plan B, and perhaps
even that got messed up so the bus became a last minute target.

But as Paul C points out, it is academic really. The attacks happened,
and they killed innocent people at all four locations. I don't quite
know how to word this correctly, so I'll be blunt - in the terrorist
mindset, the 7 July attacks would be regarded as a mission accomplished.

In message om, at
10:01:11 on Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Mizter T remarked:
Of course, a question can be asked of why the Picadilly
line bomber only got as far as he did.

It has been reported that there were earlier disruptions on the line. At
the best of times it's very difficult to get on those trains at KX at
that time of day, especially near the front. I think he just got delayed
in the congestion on the platform.
--
Roland Perry