"Peter" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
Box Junction cameras to be rolled London wide following successful
pilot

Cool, I can't wait to hear what the speeding mob have to say about it.
They'll probably be moaning like they do about the speed cameras. If
only they could have cameras for every (or almost every) offence.

Like poor lane discipline (see another ongoing thread).

Graculus wrote:
"Peter" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
Box Junction cameras to be rolled London wide following successful
pilot

Cool, I can't wait to hear what the speeding mob have to say about it.
They'll probably be moaning like they do about the speed cameras. If
only they could have cameras for every (or almost every) offence.

Like poor lane discipline (see another ongoing thread).

I guess I'm one of the 'speeding mob' ;-)

I'd love it. If it was possible to have cameras for 'almost every' offence
then a lot of the dimwitted but always 'I'm below the limit so I'm safe'
drivers would rapidly be clobbered with dangerous driving, tailgating,
DWDCA, and the roads would clear up rapidly.

It's been said before and it always gets ignored but I'll try again.

If the limits were sensibly and consistently applied, and cameras were
really sited at dangerous spots not on clear dual carriageways, and most
importantly this was in addition to real traffic policing not instead of
it, most people here would not have a problem with Scameras..

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:46:59 GMT, PC Paul wrote:
If the limits were sensibly and consistently applied, and cameras were
really sited at dangerous spots not on clear dual carriageways, and
most importantly this was in addition to real traffic policing not
instead of it, most people here would not have a problem with
Scameras..

If you are caught by a cam on a DC (assuming national speed limits), it
follows that you are driving at more than 70mph. The fact you think this
is a problem indicates your limited consideration for other road users.
*You* might be perfectly in control of your car at 125 mph, but since
others on the road are not also doing comparable speeds, you are a
significant danger to *them*, especially when it comes to them changing
lanes to overtake, for example. Few drivers are actually as good as they
think they are, and the best ones consider others as well as themselves
more than your comment suggests you do.
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If you are caught by a cam on a DC (assuming national speed limits), it
follows that you are driving at more than 70mph.

But that (DCs being NSL) is a big assumption in today's world. Many entirely
rural dual carriageway roads with modern alignments and few junctions have
had their speed limits reduced below the NSL.

"Richard Bullock" wrote in message
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If you are caught by a cam on a DC (assuming national speed limits), it
follows that you are driving at more than 70mph.

But that (DCs being NSL) is a big assumption in today's world. Many
entirely rural dual carriageway roads with modern alignments and few
junctions have had their speed limits reduced below the NSL.

And then you turn off down a narrow country lane and find that you are
allowed to go faster than you were on the dual carriageway. Makes you wonder
what various council transport departments are on sometimes.

Dave.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:47:53 GMT, Richard Bullock wrote:

If you are caught by a cam on a DC (assuming national speed limits), it
follows that you are driving at more than 70mph.

But that (DCs being NSL) is a big assumption in today's world. Many entirely
rural dual carriageway roads with modern alignments and few junctions have
had their speed limits reduced below the NSL.

Clarification: the assumption was only so that I could put a figure
later in the sentence. It wasn't an assumption that all DC's are NSL.

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PC Paul wrote:

I guess I'm one of the 'speeding mob' ;-)

I'd love it. If it was possible to have cameras for 'almost every' offence
then a lot of the dimwitted but always 'I'm below the limit so I'm safe'
drivers would rapidly be clobbered with dangerous driving, tailgating,
DWDCA, and the roads would clear up rapidly.

It's been said before and it always gets ignored but I'll try again.

If the limits were sensibly and consistently applied, and cameras were
really sited at dangerous spots not on clear dual carriageways, and most
importantly this was in addition to real traffic policing not instead of
it, most people here would not have a problem with Scameras..

We may have a 'problem' with these cameras, but it doesn't justify
breaking the law. Doing 80mph along a road is illegal whether there's
a camera or not! The sad thing is that the country is full of people
who have no respect for the law.

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"Peter" wrote:

PC Paul wrote:

I guess I'm one of the 'speeding mob' ;-)

I'd love it. If it was possible to have cameras for 'almost every' offence
then a lot of the dimwitted but always 'I'm below the limit so I'm safe'
drivers would rapidly be clobbered with dangerous driving, tailgating,
DWDCA, and the roads would clear up rapidly.

It's been said before and it always gets ignored but I'll try again.

If the limits were sensibly and consistently applied, and cameras were
really sited at dangerous spots not on clear dual carriageways, and most
importantly this was in addition to real traffic policing not instead of
it, most people here would not have a problem with Scameras..

We may have a 'problem' with these cameras, but it doesn't justify
breaking the law. Doing 80mph along a road is illegal whether there's
a camera or not! The sad thing is that the country is full of people
who have no respect for the law.

Amen! :-)

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Peter wrote:

snip /
We may have a 'problem' with these cameras, but it doesn't justify
breaking the law. Doing 80mph along a road is illegal whether there's
a camera or not! The sad thing is that the country is full of people
who have no respect for the law.

I think that is slightly untrue. The majority of people have respect for
the majority of laws.

The fact that speeding *in certain locations* is one of the few laws where a
significant minority from all cross-sections of the community don't have
respect for, suggests that the law in those locations needs rethinking.
Also is funny that those laws often aren't set by parliament, but by local
councillors.

Sean

In article , Sean says...

The fact that speeding *in certain locations* is one of the few laws where a
significant minority from all cross-sections of the community don't have
respect for, suggests that the law in those locations needs rethinking.

Bull****. You can extend that to a vast amount of things.


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