On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:58:49 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:52:17 GMT, "Alan OBrien"
wrote:

The Northern Line has at least twice closed the Bank Branch in the quiet
months of July/August to put more speed restrictions in



Seriously, perhaps that is what is needed. Close one line at a time
in its entirety, and completely re-lay the track, signalling and other
failure-prone equipment.

I've been advocating this for years.

However, can you imagine how the ignorant masses, and the media, would
react?

--
James Farrar

September's coming soon

Adrian writes:
Are other similar systems closed for five hours every night?

Yes, that's pretty much normal.
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Mark Brader, Toronto "These Millennia are like buses."
--Arwel Parry

James Farrar wrote:
Seriously, perhaps that is what is needed. Close one line at a time
in its entirety, and completely re-lay the track, signalling and other
failure-prone equipment.

I've been advocating this for years.

However, can you imagine how the ignorant masses, and the
media, would react?

Or, for that matter, those people for whom that line is
the only practical means of getting to work in a timely
manner.

#Paul

I don't see that it is LU's responsibility to get people home just
because pub opening hours are longer. If people must insist in drinking
until 2 am get a taxi or a night bus or move closer to the pub, or
choose a pub wihin walking distance. This problem will be nationwide

The problem won't be nationwide. Pubs currently shut at 11, the last
bus/train (if there is one) is well before then.

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:13:29 +0100,
wrote:

Or, for that matter, those people for whom that line is
the only practical means of getting to work in a timely
manner.

True, but they'll be able to get to work in an even more timely manner
after the work is done. Short-term pain for very much long-term gain.

Neil

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On 19 Aug 2005 21:46:39 -0700, "Paul Weaver"
wrote:

The problem won't be nationwide. Pubs currently shut at 11, the last
bus/train (if there is one) is well before then.

Depends on your location. I have a bus home at 23:25 which I use from
time to time. Trouble is, the use of taxis for a night out is so
ingrained that I'm often the only passenger, so I think it only runs
for political reasons rather than strictly being required.

Neil

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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 23:36:13 +0100, James Farrar wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:58:49 GMT, (Neil
Williams) wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 08:52:17 GMT, "Alan OBrien"
wrote:

The Northern Line has at least twice closed the Bank Branch in the quiet
months of July/August to put more speed restrictions in



Seriously, perhaps that is what is needed. Close one line at a time in
its entirety, and completely re-lay the track, signalling and other
failure-prone equipment.

I've been advocating this for years.

However, can you imagine how the ignorant masses, and the media, would
react?

If we are talking about closing the bank section of the Northern Line
again then quite rightly given last time they closed it for several months.

Have LUL suddenly become competent?

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:55:07 +0000, Neil Williams wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:13:29 +0100,
wrote:

Or, for that matter, those people for whom that line is the only
practical means of getting to work in a timely manner.

True, but they'll be able to get to work in an even more timely manner
after the work is done. Short-term pain for very much long-term gain.


They told us that before, I am not convinced the numbers added up in my
favour.

Long term pain in 1996(ish) was supposed to not mean

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/17184815

"Adrian" wrote in message
. 244.170...
An idle thought...

The pub licencing hours are currently - as you may have heard... - being
overhauled (finally), with the result that a lot of pubs may well be open
later into the night.

Let's assume that the doom'n'gloom scenario doesn't happen, and we don't
descend into a Tracy Emin reinterpretation of a Hogarth painting. I'm an
optimist on this one - any initial chaos will soon disappear, and we'll be
better off than currently. I hope.

Anyway - The question is... Will LU reflect this in extending the time of
the last trains? It's a bit pointless pubs applying for later licences if
people still have to leave at the same time to get home.

Just drive home by car.

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:39:22 +0100, steve
wrote:

If we are talking about closing the bank section of the Northern Line
again then quite rightly given last time they closed it for several months.

I am proposing, quite seriously, the idea of closing a complete line
at a time (with suitable bus replacement services feeding other lines
via areas of as low traffic congestion as feasible) and completely
renewing all of the tired infrastructure, which would result in a
reduced maintenance requirement for years to come. The idea would be
to bring the infrastructure up to the superb standard of, say, the
Hamburg system. New track, new signals, new cabling, the lot.

A bit of short term pain for a *lot* of long-term gain, both financial
and in terms of fewer blockades.

Neil

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