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These sort of things make me laugh.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4227212.stm Strangely enough it doesn't mention Leicester Sq so I assume that that station is equally overcrowded and can't cope. Perhaps Ken could introduce a congestion charge or even pay for escalators. Kevin |
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Brimstone wrote: wrote: These sort of things make me laugh. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4227212.stm Strangely enough it doesn't mention Leicester Sq so I assume that that station is equally overcrowded and can't cope. Perhaps Ken could introduce a congestion charge or even pay for escalators. You'd make yourself look less of a prat if you had bothered to read the article and to understand it. Ok my understanding is that TfL are encouraging passngers not to use Covent Garden tube at the weekend due to overcrowding. Covent Garden is the busiest tube station that is exclusively served by lifts. TfL are encouraging passengers to use Charing Cross, Embankment and Holburn (but strangely not Leicester Sq). The opening paragraph states "Transport chiefs are urging people to reduce congestion at Covent Garden Tube station by using other forms of travel". Is my understanding ok, what have I not understood? Kevin |
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Brimstone wrote: wrote: These sort of things make me laugh. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4227212.stm Strangely enough it doesn't mention Leicester Sq so I assume that that station is equally overcrowded and can't cope. Perhaps Ken could introduce a congestion charge or even pay for escalators. You'd make yourself look less of a prat if you had bothered to read the article and to understand it. Ok my understanding is that TfL are encouraging passngers not to use Covent Garden tube at the weekend due to overcrowding. Covent Garden is the busiest tube station that is exclusively served by lifts. TfL are encouraging passengers to use Charing Cross, Embankment and Holburn (but strangely not Leicester Sq). The opening paragraph states "Transport chiefs are urging people to reduce congestion at Covent Garden Tube station by using other forms of travel". Is my understanding ok, what have I not understood? If your level of understanding is such why does the story make you laugh? |
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"Brimstone" wrote in message
... wrote: Brimstone wrote: wrote: These sort of things make me laugh. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4227212.stm Strangely enough it doesn't mention Leicester Sq so I assume that that station is equally overcrowded and can't cope. Perhaps Ken could introduce a congestion charge or even pay for escalators. You'd make yourself look less of a prat if you had bothered to read the article and to understand it. Ok my understanding is that TfL are encouraging passngers not to use Covent Garden tube at the weekend due to overcrowding. Covent Garden is the busiest tube station that is exclusively served by lifts. TfL are encouraging passengers to use Charing Cross, Embankment and Holburn (but strangely not Leicester Sq). The opening paragraph states "Transport chiefs are urging people to reduce congestion at Covent Garden Tube station by using other forms of travel". Is my understanding ok, what have I not understood? If your level of understanding is such why does the story make you laugh? I would imagine he's laughing at the irony of London Underground (sic: that's what the news story says) saying "don't use one of our own stations at busy times" - although, I agree it's for very good reasons. Really it's admission that the Covent Garden market area is so popular that the out-of-date lifts (as opposed to escalators) in the station can't cope. Leicester Square is probably the closest station to Covent Garden market after CG station itself, so the fact that it's not mentioned suggests that it is also very busy, though it has escalators rather than lifts, IIRC, so at least it can handle the number of people better. Don't give Ken ideas about financial penalties to discourage people-congestion at busy stations ;-) The ideal solution would be escalators. I presume the fact that the lifts have survived so long is an indication that the site isn't suited to the extra horizontal space required for escalators and that conversion would be seriously costly in terms of the building/tunnelling work involved. |
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Martin Underwood wrote:
"Brimstone" wrote in message ... wrote: Brimstone wrote: wrote: These sort of things make me laugh. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4227212.stm Strangely enough it doesn't mention Leicester Sq so I assume that that station is equally overcrowded and can't cope. Perhaps Ken could introduce a congestion charge or even pay for escalators. You'd make yourself look less of a prat if you had bothered to read the article and to understand it. Ok my understanding is that TfL are encouraging passngers not to use Covent Garden tube at the weekend due to overcrowding. Covent Garden is the busiest tube station that is exclusively served by lifts. TfL are encouraging passengers to use Charing Cross, Embankment and Holburn (but strangely not Leicester Sq). The opening paragraph states "Transport chiefs are urging people to reduce congestion at Covent Garden Tube station by using other forms of travel". Is my understanding ok, what have I not understood? If your level of understanding is such why does the story make you laugh? I would imagine he's laughing at the irony of London Underground (sic: that's what the news story says) saying "don't use one of our own stations at busy times" - although, I agree it's for very good reasons. Really it's admission that the Covent Garden market area is so popular that the out-of-date lifts (as opposed to escalators) in the station can't cope. Leicester Square is probably the closest station to Covent Garden market after CG station itself, so the fact that it's not mentioned suggests that it is also very busy, though it has escalators rather than lifts, IIRC, so at least it can handle the number of people better. Don't give Ken ideas about financial penalties to discourage people-congestion at busy stations ;-) The ideal solution would be escalators. I presume the fact that the lifts have survived so long is an indication that the site isn't suited to the extra horizontal space required for escalators and that conversion would be seriously costly in terms of the building/tunnelling work involved. That's my understanding also, the surface building would need to be located elsewhere in the vicinity. |
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Martin Underwood wrote:
The ideal solution would be to rename Leicester Sq Covent Garden and Covent Garden Ripoff Central. M. |
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"Martin Underwood" wrote in message
... The ideal solution would be escalators. I presume the fact that the lifts have survived so long is an indication that the site isn't suited to the extra horizontal space required for escalators Covent Garden was so quiet in the 1930s that it was considered for closure at the same time as York Road and Brompton Road. It only became busy since the 1970s or 1980s, by which time there had been no lift-escalator conversions on the Underground for decades. The only subsequent escalator-lift conversions have been part of bigger projects, such as getting rid of the narrow platform at Angel, which is one of the stations with the highest proportion of blind users. and that conversion would be seriously costly in terms of the building/tunnelling work involved. Yes, I think money is the issue rather than any unique properties of this site. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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Martin Underwood writes The ideal solution would be escalators. I presume the fact that the lifts have survived so long is an indication that the site isn't suited to the extra horizontal space required for escalators and that conversion would be seriously costly in terms of the building/tunnelling work involved. The TfL 5-year plan announced "major works to relieve congestion" at Covent Garden "by 2007" - but didn't say what these will be. It won't be escalators, given the time-scale. My guess is that it will be to enlarge the street-level ticket hall by converting adjacent property (or perhaps by reviving the old plan of a second hall on the north side of Long Acre, possibly with additional lifts). This would be worthwhile, since the present ticket hall is far too small and adds considerably to the congestion around the lifts. I have often thought that the rebuilding of the opera house and the entire north-west quarter of the piazza in the late 1990s would have been an ideal time to have added escalators to the tube station - a new station entrance could quite possibly have been included on the corner of James Street and the new development. But I'm sure cost is the real issue - if the £500M for the Victoria redevelopment is any guide, putting in escalators at Covent Garden would probably cost more than the entire redevelopment of the Opera House (and that was astronomic!). -- Paul Terry |
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Brimstone wrote: wrote: Brimstone wrote: wrote: These sort of things make me laugh. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4227212.stm Strangely enough it doesn't mention Leicester Sq so I assume that that station is equally overcrowded and can't cope. Perhaps Ken could introduce a congestion charge or even pay for escalators. You'd make yourself look less of a prat if you had bothered to read the article and to understand it. Ok my understanding is that TfL are encouraging passngers not to use Covent Garden tube at the weekend due to overcrowding. Covent Garden is the busiest tube station that is exclusively served by lifts. TfL are encouraging passengers to use Charing Cross, Embankment and Holburn (but strangely not Leicester Sq). The opening paragraph states "Transport chiefs are urging people to reduce congestion at Covent Garden Tube station by using other forms of travel". Is my understanding ok, what have I not understood? If your level of understanding is such why does the story make you laugh? So why shouldn't that make me laugh. Do we need to get the permission of the Newsgroup police to find soemthing amusing now. No comment then on a situation where passengers are being expected not to use the closest public transport due to, well erh, congestion. Really inspires confidence that we have the Olympics in 7 years time. Kevin |
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