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Commute from Harrow to Marlow
thoss wrote:
In article .com, writes Is this - via A40/M40 - going to be a nightmare ? Any idea on time ? Leaving Harrow in the morning, returning evening. You will be going against the prevailing traffic, so it shouldn't be a problem once you get to the A40. ....although sometimes Handy Cross (M40 junction 4) and the A404 can be a bit of a pain. -- Dave Arquati Imperial College, SW7 www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London |
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In message , at 19:32:37 on Thu, 3 Nov
2005, Dave Arquati remarked: Leaving Harrow in the morning, returning evening. You will be going against the prevailing traffic, so it shouldn't be a problem once you get to the A40. ...although sometimes Handy Cross (M40 junction 4) and the A404 can be a bit of a pain. I've often been held up in a two lane jam all the way up the hill to the M40 from the Marlow junction. The OP should consider other ways to get from Marlow to the M40, if possible! It might even be quicker to go down to the M4 and east as far as J3, then north through Yeading and Northolt. -- Roland Perry |
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Leaving Harrow in the morning, returning evening.
You will be going against the prevailing traffic, so it shouldn't be a problem once you get to the A40. ...although sometimes Handy Cross (M40 junction 4) and the A404 can be a bit of a pain. I've often been held up in a two lane jam all the way up the hill to the M40 from the Marlow junction. The OP should consider other ways to get from Marlow to the M40, if possible! It might even be quicker to go down to the M4 and east as far as J3, then north through Yeading and Northolt. Why? That's absolute lunacy. The road up past Marlow Bottom (Wycombe Road) is a very easy and hassle-free way to get up to Handy Cross. The longest queue I've ever encountered going that way has been about 3 cars long, and that's been with the A404 grinding to a halt just after the Marlow junction. Of course, you could go up Sheepridge Lane (IIRC) and up through Flackwell Heath, getting on the M40 at Junction 3. -- Tell me your birthday! www.BornOnTheSameDay.co.uk Called Pete? Join The Pete Collective NOW at www.thepetecollective.co.uk |
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In message , at 12:10:05 on
Fri, 4 Nov 2005, AstraVanMan remarked: I've often been held up in a two lane jam all the way up the hill to the M40 from the Marlow junction. The OP should consider other ways to get from Marlow to the M40, if possible! It might even be quicker to go down to the M4 and east as far as J3, then north through Yeading and Northolt. Why? That's absolute lunacy. Using "main" roads it would almost certainly reduce the journey time. The road up past Marlow Bottom (Wycombe Road) is a very easy and hassle-free way to get up to Handy Cross. Sounds fine, I've not tried that rat run, but thanks for alerting me to it - I will next time I'm there! -- Roland Perry |
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I've often been held up in a two lane jam all the way up the hill to the
M40 from the Marlow junction. The OP should consider other ways to get from Marlow to the M40, if possible! It might even be quicker to go down to the M4 and east as far as J3, then north through Yeading and Northolt. Why? That's absolute lunacy. Using "main" roads it would almost certainly reduce the journey time. Would it? When you say through Yeading and Northolt I'm guessing you're talking the A312, and not the old main road (Yeading Lane?). I certainly wouldn't choose to go that way in the rush hour, having experienced queues up to the White Hart roundabout to a small extent and, to a much larger extent, up to the Target roundabout, with that peak hours bus lane taking out half of the road capacity when it's needed most! Or were you thinking about heading up past South Ruislip station and in to Harrow that way? The road up past Marlow Bottom (Wycombe Road) is a very easy and hassle-free way to get up to Handy Cross. Sounds fine, I've not tried that rat run, but thanks for alerting me to it - I will next time I'm there! Keep it quiet though, you don't want it getting all over the internet, or the route will quickly clog up. :-) -- Tell me your birthday! www.BornOnTheSameDay.co.uk Called Pete? Join The Pete Collective NOW at www.thepetecollective.co.uk |
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In message , at 14:32:21 on Fri,
4 Nov 2005, AstraVanMan remarked: Using "main" roads it would almost certainly reduce the journey time. Would it? I'm comparing it with the route that involves sitting half on hour the hill up to High Wycombe, remember. When you say through Yeading and Northolt I'm guessing you're talking the A312, and not the old main road (Yeading Lane?). A312 all the way, past Northolt Station. It's a few years since I've motored around there very much, so the fine detail of exactly which roads to use might be different. -- Roland Perry |
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Using "main" roads it would almost certainly reduce the journey time.
Would it? I'm comparing it with the route that involves sitting half on hour the hill up to High Wycombe, remember. When you say through Yeading and Northolt I'm guessing you're talking the A312, and not the old main road (Yeading Lane?). A312 all the way, past Northolt Station. It's a few years since I've motored around there very much, so the fine detail of exactly which roads to use might be different. I'm on about the bit before the A40. Right pain, that is. -- Tell me your birthday! www.BornOnTheSameDay.co.uk Called Pete? Join The Pete Collective NOW at www.thepetecollective.co.uk |
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"AstraVanMan" wrote in message
... The road up past Marlow Bottom (Wycombe Road) is a very easy and hassle-free way to get up to Handy Cross. Sounds fine, I've not tried that rat run, but thanks for alerting me to it - I will next time I'm there! Keep it quiet though, you don't want it getting all over the internet, or the route will quickly clog up. :-) Too late! You had to tell him, didn't you?!?! |
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"AstraVanMan" wrote in message
... I certainly wouldn't choose to go that way in the rush hour, having experienced queues up to the White Hart roundabout to a small extent and, to a much larger extent, up to the Target roundabout, with that peak hours bus lane taking out half of the road capacity when it's needed most! Generally the capacity of a road is limited by the capacity of the junctions. If the bus lane doesn't reach the most restricted junction, it doesn't reduce the capacity at all - it actually increases the capacity by encouraging certain drivers to get the bus instead, leaving more capacity free for people who can not reasonably use the bus for their particular journey. -- John Rowland - Spamtrapped Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood. That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line - It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes |
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I certainly wouldn't choose to go that way in the
rush hour, having experienced queues up to the White Hart roundabout to a small extent and, to a much larger extent, up to the Target roundabout, with that peak hours bus lane taking out half of the road capacity when it's needed most! Generally the capacity of a road is limited by the capacity of the junctions. If the bus lane doesn't reach the most restricted junction, it doesn't reduce the capacity at all - it actually increases the capacity by encouraging certain drivers to get the bus instead, leaving more capacity free for people who can not reasonably use the bus for their particular journey. All very well if any of that was relevant to this case. Unfortunately it isn't. The Target roundabout's a very busy roundabout with a lot of people going straight on towards Northolt station and Harrow, and a very heavy flow of traffic taking the Eastbound A40. The traffic needs to be separated into different lanes for a lot longer than the very short distance between the end of the bus lane and the junction. And the bus theory would work if at least 50% of drivers did take the bus. Unfortunately, for probably the vast majority of the drivers, taking the car is far quicker than using the bus, so that's not going to happen, and the congestion stays. -- Tell me your birthday! www.BornOnTheSameDay.co.uk Called Pete? Join The Pete Collective NOW at www.thepetecollective.co.uk |
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