"Chris Read" wrote in message
...

Just a quick reminder that Shoreditch station (East London Line) will
close
permanently this Friday. Last train appears to depart at 20:34

Out of interest, did they ever consider running the ELL services into
Liverpool Street for all the mainline connections and the direct link to the
City for all the workers?
Or was there too much mainline traffic to allow this?

Nick

Nick Pedley wrote:

Just a quick reminder that Shoreditch station (East London Line) will
close
permanently this Friday. Last train appears to depart at 20:34

Out of interest, did they ever consider running the ELL services into
Liverpool Street for all the mainline connections and the direct link to
the City for all the workers?
Or was there too much mainline traffic to allow this?

Well that's what the line originally did but I guess it proved too messy to
justify given the traffic involved. Putting it back now would take at least
one much needed platform at Liverpool Street and create more pressure on one
of the most congested sections of track in London.

If a Liverpool Street to New Crosses root is needed, restoring through
services on the connection at St. Mary's would do the trick better, if the
District and H&C could handle it.

Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:
If a Liverpool Street to New Crosses root is needed, restoring through
services on the connection at St. Mary's would do the trick better, if the
District and H&C could handle it.

They can't. There is literally no capacity for additional movements
across the Aldgate triangle, which means that any new services via the
St. Mary's Curve would have to be diverted away from the District main
line, increasing overcrowding. Likewise, Aldgate East would be strained
with all of the new interchanging traffic (St. Mary's station is long
gone and will not come back, no matter what).

A far better option is to rebuild Whitechapel DR to increase and
rationalize track capacity, and to additionally reconstruct the station
to provide more and step-free access between the two routes.

Looming in the distance at Shoreditch on the ex-BR side is a sort of
signal box type cabin high up with a concrete structure beside it. I
was told this is the remains of a wagon hoist? Anyone know more about
it?

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Looming in the distance at Shoreditch on the ex-BR side is a sort of
signal box type cabin high up with a concrete structure beside it. I
was told this is the remains of a wagon hoist? Anyone know more about
it?

It was a signal box. The entire viaduct was built for the Bishopsgate
terminus before Liverpool Street took over that role. Bishopsgate then
became a major goods station.
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...on/index.shtml

Nick Pedley

TheOneKEA wrote:

They can't. There is literally no capacity for additional movements
across the Aldgate triangle,

How would the various proposals going around to scrap the Circle, turn the
Hammersmith & City into a once round the loop Hammersmith to Edgeware Road
route and send the Met Whitechapel way change this?

On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Tim Roll-Pickering wrote:

Nick Pedley wrote:

Just a quick reminder that Shoreditch station (East London Line) will
close permanently this Friday. Last train appears to depart at 20:34

Out of interest, did they ever consider running the ELL services into
Liverpool Street for all the mainline connections and the direct link
to the City for all the workers? Or was there too much mainline traffic
to allow this?

Well that's what the line originally did but I guess it proved too messy
to justify given the traffic involved. Putting it back now would take at
least one much needed platform at Liverpool Street and create more
pressure on one of the most congested sections of track in London.

I believe it's not a matter of platform so much as track capacity -
remember you've got the whole of the Great Eastern and West Anglia lines,
with long-distance and rather busy suburban services on both, on four
tracks.

tom

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