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St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?/British Standard BS7666.
On 30 Jun 2006 16:41:09 -0700, wrote:
snip Thank you for expalaining that the Scottish regions have gone. They never seamed very meaningful to me. I much preferred the counties. Are the counties back? All are now single tier "Councils" in "Council Areas", some of which bear a remarkable similarity to the traditional cities and counties. What happened to Strathclyde? Generally, functions passed to what were the district councils with "joint boards" (formed with reps from councils) to manage what remained from districts+regions days, mainly fire and police. Am I right in thinking there is still a Strathclyde PTE? No, there's now a "son of", see:- http://www.spt.co.uk/about/index.html although there's possibly not much difference to the passengers. The only "next-nearest-to-a-PTE" (buses-only public authority transport operator) in Scotland seems now to be trading as Lothian Buses:- http://www.lothianbuses.co.uk/ which unless I've missed something is the jointly-owned (East, West and Mid-Lothian councils) Lothian Region Transport in disguise. -- _______ +---------------------------------------------------+ |\\ //| | Charles Ellson: | | \\ // | +---------------------------------------------------+ | | | // \\ | Alba gu brath |//___\\| |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?/British Standard BS7666.
In article . com writes:
Richard M Willis wrote: Surely, counties are not needed at all on postal addresses ? All I usually give is Persun's Name xxx StreetName postcode It is a while since I have seen a Royal Mail Manual covering the subject. It used to state that Counties are required followed the Post Town with exceptions. The list of exceptions was very long. Ah, in the Netherlands it is much easier. Postal code plus house number is sufficient to get the mail delivered. So when you look at my signature it is overcomplete. 1025 JN 215 is enough to deliver without any further indication, you do not even need to state my name. -- dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj amsterdam, nederland, +31205924131 home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/ |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?/British Standard BS7666.
On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 01:26:04 GMT, "Dik T. Winter"
wrote: In article . com writes: Richard M Willis wrote: Surely, counties are not needed at all on postal addresses ? All I usually give is Persun's Name xxx StreetName postcode It is a while since I have seen a Royal Mail Manual covering the subject. It used to state that Counties are required followed the Post Town with exceptions. The list of exceptions was very long. Ah, in the Netherlands it is much easier. Postal code plus house number is sufficient to get the mail delivered. So when you look at my signature it is overcomplete. 1025 JN 215 is enough to deliver without any further indication, you do not even need to state my name. In most cases postcode and house number will get a letter delivered in the UK but one single simple error can send the letter somewhere very different. The postcode is principally a device for Royal Mail's use and is not readily translatable by the majority of people whereas an address has much wider usage. In the absence any other public authority defining addresses in a uniform manner it is the RM definition which in practice has universal usage when premises need to be located, but minimising the presented information increases the risk of confusion of same- or similatly-names places. Although the county is not regarded by RM as a required address detail it still exists within the RM system, usually seen as a deciding detail where a postcode is requested for an address in a place whose name is not unique or is almost the same as another place elsewhere in the country. -- _______ +---------------------------------------------------+ |\\ //| | Charles Ellson: | | \\ // | +---------------------------------------------------+ | | | // \\ | Alba gu brath |//___\\| |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:53:57 +0100, Charles Ellson
wrote: What happened to the publication "Nicholson's London Streetfinder"? Probably now branded as "Collins" (if still published), my 1995 Nicholson Greater London Street Atlas carrying the information "a division of HarperCollinsPublishers [sic]". I think it's still published as the Collins street atlas. The A5-ish version covers a slightly different area to the similarly-sized A-Z, it includes more of the SW London/Surrey bit and a bit less of North London. Or it did when I lived in New Malden. |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:15:53 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote: Ned Carlson wrote: What I'm wondering, is HTF did apostrophes get into the English language, anyway? None of its ancestor/contributing languages (Anglo-Saxon, Norse, French, Celtic) use or used apostrophes, did they? Modern Dutch uses apostrophes in the plural of certain (or all?) nouns ending in a long single vowel, such as "2 taxi's" or "3 piano's". So does English... German uses the apostrophe for the possessive of personal nouns, rather like english, eg Adolf's. |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?
"Phil Clark" wrote:
Modern Dutch uses apostrophes in the plural of certain (or all?) nouns ending in a long single vowel, such as "2 taxi's" or "3 piano's". So does English... No it doesn't. -- "For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died." |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?/British Standard BS7666.
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St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?/British Standard BS7666.
"Charles Ellson" wrote There's a certain amount of Alice in Wonderland in the way that descriptions and definitions are used in English local government arrangements nowadays. I have to agree with you on that! |
St Johns Wood or St John's Wood?/British Standard BS7666.
"Charles Ellson" wrote wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: wrote: IMU no local authority devoid of subsidiary authorities is currently classified as a "county" for local government purposes, although other bits of officialdom or semi-officialdom might continue to do so. Isn't the Isle of Wight a County devoid of subsidiary components? The only current mention of "county" seems to be in the name of their HQ which seems to be basically a case of not "fixing" an established address. It has actually got "subsidiary authorities" in the form of town/community councils (which I'd forgotten about) but not in the form which I had in mind of authorities which provide day-to-day council services (e.g. roads, rubbish, welfare, etc.). I think some parish and district councillors might get upset at the suggestion that their councils are in any way subsidiary to the council of the county in which they are located. Although county, district and parish councils (community councils in Wales) are sometimes described as 1st, 2nd and 3rd tier authorities, they are independent in terms of their decision-making and precept setting, not being answerable to the tier or tiers above them. |
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