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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5245860.stm
"The average commuter is spending more than 139 hours per year commuting, increasing substantially for Londoners who spend the equivalent of one whole month per year (225 hours a year) travelling to and from work." I accept they are talking about average times but I struggle to see how the average is so low. My commute time is about 40 mins in the morning and 50 in the evening and is not particularly onerous compared to those of my immediate work colleagues most of whom travel a considerable distance by main line rail. My annual total, based on about 45 weeks for the working year, comes out at 337.5 hours. While I don't know exactly how the authors of the study calculated their numbers the implication is that there are a lot more relatively short commuting journeys in order to drag the average down. What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people typically do have long or short trip times? -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people typically do have long or short trip times? About 3.5 hours a day for me, nearly 800 hours a year. Three guys in my office (of 6) spend longer than me, the longest spends 3 hours EACH WAY from Deal to West London, 1350 hours a year. The shortest commute is 35 minutes each way, walking from chiswick. This is based in London. 10 years ago, my parents spent 35 minutes each way and 22 minutes each way, now It'd probably be longer now (the short one included M62 J11 - M62 J13, the long one was via thelwell) OTOH my sister has a sickening 3 minute commute, she's the only one I know that has less than half an hour each way. |
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On 05/08/2006 10:14, Paul Weaver wrote:
Paul Corfield wrote: What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people typically do have long or short trip times? About 3.5 hours a day for me, nearly 800 hours a year. Three guys in my office (of 6) spend longer than me, the longest spends 3 hours EACH WAY from Deal to West London, 1350 hours a year. The shortest commute is 35 minutes each way, walking from chiswick. This is based in London. 10 years ago, my parents spent 35 minutes each way and 22 minutes each way, now It'd probably be longer now (the short one included M62 J11 - M62 J13, the long one was via thelwell) OTOH my sister has a sickening 3 minute commute, she's the only one I know that has less than half an hour each way. At *least* 90 Min in the morning and about 70 min in the evening. That's from the Enfield area to Waterloo (Most of the time) The morning trip is stuffed because of the lack of Waterloo & City Line (Ohh I do hope they get it right and open on time!) Since I work odd days/weekends and I might not go into my Waterloo office I cant just spit out a yearly figure. And since we are on the subject of the WL&C - I still think the LUL/TfL are being a bit harsh not giving season ticket holders *anything* for the closure of the drain. I (along with a lot of other people) have at least an extra 30 - 40 mins 'delay' on the up, the down for me is much easier as I get a good run out of the office early and can (normally) get the LUL back to Seven Sisters instead of going via Liverpool St. Grrr |
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On 09/08/2006 15:59, Q wrote:
Snip At *least* 90 Min in the morning and about 70 min in the evening. That's from the Enfield area to Waterloo (Most of the time) Snip And to follow myself up - that didn't include the weekly trip I had to make to Leeds, or the fortnightly trip I made to Bristol both for work. |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5245860.stm "The average commuter is spending more than 139 hours per year commuting, increasing substantially for Londoners who spend the equivalent of one whole month per year (225 hours a year) travelling to and from work." I accept they are talking about average times but I struggle to see how the average is so low. My commute time is about 40 mins in the morning and 50 in the evening and is not particularly onerous compared to those of my immediate work colleagues most of whom travel a considerable distance by main line rail. My annual total, based on about 45 weeks for the working year, comes out at 337.5 hours. While I don't know exactly how the authors of the study calculated their numbers the implication is that there are a lot more relatively short commuting journeys in order to drag the average down. What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people typically do have long or short trip times? Around 100 minutes a day for me: 50 each way Norbiton - St James's Park and back, including a walk, 2 trains and one Tube. Cheers Steve M |
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On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:16:00 +0100, Steve M
wrote: Around 100 minutes a day for me: 50 each way Norbiton - St James's Park and back, including a walk, 2 trains and one Tube. I'm surprised you don't go through to Vauxhall and get a 87 or 88 bus up to Whitehall / Parliament Square (87) or Great Smith St / Marsham Street (88). I'm guessing you change at Clapham Junction to Victoria and then battle on to the District Line. -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:16:00 +0100, Steve M wrote: Around 100 minutes a day for me: 50 each way Norbiton - St James's Park and back, including a walk, 2 trains and one Tube. I'm surprised you don't go through to Vauxhall and get a 87 or 88 bus up to Whitehall / Parliament Square (87) or Great Smith St / Marsham Street (88). I'm guessing you change at Clapham Junction to Victoria and then battle on to the District Line. I've tried every possible combination and the Victoria route actually works out quickest. 9 times out of 10, the following happens: SWT arrival at CLJ: 0 mins Southern departure from CLJ plat 12/14: (at the latest) 2 mins Southern arrival at Victoria: 10 mins Quick walk to District Line platforms District Line train leaves: 14 mins Through barriers at SJP and into office: 16 mins Going via Vauxhall: SWT arrival at CLJ: 0 mins SWT departure from CLJ: 1 min SWT arrival at Vauxhall: 7 mins Quick walk to bus station Bus leaves: 12 mins Bus arrives: 20 mins Walk to SJP and into office: 24 mins The former works for me as it really does work, and the trains come at pretty much the same time every day (almost to the second). I get really frustrated when having to depend on the bus as with frequent services, they never come at the same time each day and the journey time is dependant on variable traffic conditions, slow boarding passengers etc. The former also means I can usually wangle an extra 15 mins in bed, although working above the station at SJP also helps! Cheers Steve M |
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Paul Corfield wrote:
What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people typically do have long or short trip times? 20 minutes each way by bike. About the same by tube, if i'm being lazy. In a few weeks, i'm moving, and will have a slightly longer ride and a slightly quicker tube trip. One of the points in the article is that people with better qualifications have longer commutes - basically, a nice way of saying that middle-class people choose to live in the suburbs or the country and endure Odyssean journeys to work, and working-class people live in the actual city, near where they work. It's probably these people who are dragging the average down. Why it's the more highly educated sector of society acts in such an utterly boneheaded manner, i have no idea! tom -- One horse laugh is worth a thousand syllogisms. -- H. L. Mencken |
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On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:51:30 +0100, Tom Anderson
wrote: Why it's the more highly educated sector of society acts in such an utterly boneheaded manner, i have no idea! It's not necessarily utterly boneheaded. I gave up a short commute from New Malden to Green Park (probably around 50 minutes including a walk from Victoria) for a longer one from Fleet (1h20m "up" and probably 5-10 minutes longer "down", and both including a walk between Waterloo and Green Park). All for good lifestyle reasons - I could afford to buy somewhere in the Royal Borough, but not where I wanted to be, and living in the city was beginning to get me down, so a move out of town did me good. However, I did make sure it was an easy commute and on a good line, so it doesn't inconvenience me too much. The worst thing is I can't easily get to work before 8.00 if I'm busy, as I much prefer starting early to working late. And I get time to read, which I didn't before. However, how those people with spectacularly long and/or messy commutes manage it is beyond me. I know moving house is expensive and changing job not necessarily easy, but surely quality of life is worth something. |
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In message , Paul Corfield
scribes My annual total, based on about 45 weeks for the working year, comes out at 337.5 hours. While I don't know exactly how the authors of the study calculated their numbers the implication is that there are a lot more relatively short commuting journeys in order to drag the average down. What are the totals for other group posters just so we can see if people typically do have long or short trip times? Mine works out at 562.5 hours per year. -- Snowy |
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