Kensington Olympia has always been treated differently than Terminals.
Probably because it isnt a terminal

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Aidan Stanger wrote:
Barry Salter wrote:

If taking the Clapham Junction route, you'd probably need a ticket from
Willesden Junction, as that's where the line splits off from the WCML,
though as the through train to Clapham/Gatwick doesn't pass *through*
Willesden Junction itself, you might need one from Wembley Central.

Isn't Kensington Olympia part of "London Terminals" any more?

I believe not, quite a recent change though I believe. I only know this
from looking through various fares on the avantix mobile and seeing
that a weekly to london terminals is different to a weekly to
Kensington Olympia

In article ,
David wrote:
Kensington Olympia has always been treated differently than Terminals.
Probably because it isnt a terminal

Terminal is not the same as terminus. KO could be a terminal just like
Blackfriars or London Bridge.

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In message , at 11:32:18 on Mon, 14 Aug
2006, David H Wild remarked:
Terminal is not the same as terminus. KO could be a terminal just like
Blackfriars or London Bridge.

A better example is KX Thameslink, which has *no* terminus platforms
(unlike Blackfriars and LB).
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In article , David H Wild
writes
Kensington Olympia has always been treated differently than Terminals.
Probably because it isnt a terminal
Terminal is not the same as terminus. KO could be a terminal just like
Blackfriars or London Bridge.

But KO is not a London Terminal within the meaning of the Routeing Guide
or ticketing.

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In article , (Roland
Perry) wrote:

In message , at 11:32:18 on Mon, 14
Aug 2006, David H Wild remarked:
Terminal is not the same as terminus. KO could be a terminal just
like Blackfriars or London Bridge.

A better example is KX Thameslink, which has *no* terminus
platforms (unlike Blackfriars and LB).

Arguably KX Thameslink hardly has *any* platforms. They are certainly
dangerously narrow.

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Colin Rosenstiel

asdf wrote:
There have been reports recently (can't remember if
here or uk.railway) that certain ticket machines south of the river
will, if you try to buy a ticket to KXTL, issue you with a ticket
printed as being to London Terminals, but at the same price as the
KXTL ticket (i.e. more expensive).


Almost...

This information applies to trains from both Brockley and Honor Oak
Park stations, and I suspect applies to all of the Southern Metro
network. When selecting KXTL on the ticket machine, you are confronted
with several options, the two most important being CDRs to "KXTL" and
"KXTL (Not via Underground)". Both of these cost £1.60 (from Brockley
with YP railcard). However, only the latter will print out a KXTL
ticket, saying Not via Underground. If you choose the former, the
machine will merrily print out a London Terminals ticket. I suspect the
staff in the ticket offices are confronted with the same options.

I imagine the OP had the same problem from East Dulwich.

I've only ever had a problem once, when the ticket I had, which was a
London Terminals one, refused to work the gate at KXTL, and when I went
to be let out, the gate staff told me the ticket was invalid. I
insisted that was what the machine had sold me, and he let me out. This
was the first I knew about the whole problem, and since then I've
generally bought the Not via Underground ticket to be safe (except for
when I want to come home via Charing Cross, in which case the Terminals
ticket is very useful!).

As for the difference in the two tickets, I wonder if the first of the
two (the one that doesn't say Not via Underground) is therefore valid
on the Tube between London Bridge and KX. I've never tried it, being
too wary of having my ticket swallowed by the London Bridge gates.

Peter Smyth wrote:

Actually Vauxhall is a London Terminal for some strange reason.

Legacy of Nine Elms? ;-)

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:41:46 +0930, (Aidan Stanger)
wrote:

Barry Salter wrote:

If taking the Clapham Junction route, you'd probably need a ticket from
Willesden Junction, as that's where the line splits off from the WCML,
though as the through train to Clapham/Gatwick doesn't pass *through*
Willesden Junction itself, you might need one from Wembley Central.

Isn't Kensington Olympia part of "London Terminals" any more?

I thought it was part of "Not London". It certainly is as far as
travel by Virgin's Brighton to Manchester trains are concerned.
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