On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 Peter Frimberley wrote:


Interesting site, hadn't seen that before.

But I too had assumed (when driving through the road works at the site
now) that it was both a replacement and widening project. I thought that
was what they bought all those houses up and demolished the cinema for a
few years ago, so they could widen the whole lot to three lanes! Seems
madness to leave it at only two lanes.

I agree.

Re the cinema, they bought it, of course, very much earlier than they
needed to. I asked a friend who was working on this project at the time
why: "because property prices are low just now".
--
Thoss

Peter Frimberley wrote:
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 18:01:10 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

Richard J. wrote:
John Rowland wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:
I really don't see TfL agreeing to any further expansion of the
A40 or the West Cross Route beyond the current limited works at
Acton Bridge.
Where's Acton Bridge?
http://www.a40actonbridges.info/index.php
Thanks.

"New bridges that will secure the structural safety for the next 120 years.
The new section of road will carry two lanes of traffic in each direction,
as well as providing new cycle paths on both sides." Since the entire rest
of the A40 from Royal Oak to the M40 is three+three (except where it passes
through certain junctions), they are planning a 120-year bottleneck.


Interesting site, hadn't seen that before.

But I too had assumed (when driving through the road works at the site
now) that it was both a replacement and widening project. I thought
that was what they bought all those houses up and demolished the
cinema for a few years ago, so they could widen the whole lot to three
lanes! Seems madness to leave it at only two lanes.

I think it goes back to two lanes for a short time under the Hangar
Lane junction, so maybe they think making Acton Bridges three lanes
would just shift the blockage to Hangar Lane?

Most likely. Even if the whole A40 were widened to 3+3, there would
still be bottlenecks - any road widening will just move the problem
somewhere else, albeit perhaps easing it for a couple of years. The new
bottlenecks might be less obvious - smaller but more numerous (e.g. on
roads feeding the A40).

--
Dave Arquati
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London

John Rowland wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:
I also noticed that Westfield appear to be contributing to a (needed)
overhaul of Shepherd's Bush Green. Unfortunately, the Green gets
strangled by traffic, and any visual and environmental improvements
will be somewhat deadened by queues of cars.

The southern edge of the site should have been used for a new 2 way road,
and the existing road from Holland Park Roundabout to the green should have
been made bus-and-taxi-only in both directions.


Traffic would still have to travel along along the western side of the
green and Wood Lane - admittedly then the problem would be confined to
one side of the green, but connecting a new road to Holland Park
Roundabout would be problematic - it would either cause severance (if on
the surface) or interfere with the Central line (if in tunnel), and
would be difficult to link to the roundabout without causing severance
between the Tube and WLL stations, and without reducing space for the
new bus station.

If the West London Tram goes ahead, the northern side of the green will
become public transport (and taxi?) only, with traffic confined to
two-way working on the other sides of the green.

--
Dave Arquati
www.alwaystouchout.com - Transport projects in London