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Matthew wrote:
In London. Presuambly the names of other cards will also be used in their own areas (Yorcard in south Yorkshire, etc). While the compatibility issues does seem to get portrayed as evil TOCs conspiring against cuddly Oysters out of pure malice, the desire of DfT and the TOCs to have a national set of open standards rather than lots of individual incompatible proprietary systems does strike me a good idea. An awful lot of UK transport technology and planning seems to be a case of "I wouldn't start from here", and getting a standardised system might avoid another set of problems in the future. Oystercards are now included in the ITSO spec, at page 88 of http://itso.org.uk/content/Specifica..._1_2006-10.pdf According to today's London Lite, Chiltern are to accept PAYG from June at the rest of its Greater London stations (Northolt Park to Wembley Stadium) . They are also to retail cards outside London. "We are also happy to announce that we are working very hard with Transport for London on being the first train company to sell Oyster Smartcards outside London. We will be launching this to our passengers in 2007" C2C are also reported to be enabling PAYG acceptance at Dagenham Dock and Rainham. Interest stuff Matthew, thanks for that! I can't quite decipher from the ITSO specification exactly how Oyster and the ITSO smartcard standard will work together, but it appears that a combination smartcard that utilises both Oyster and the ITSO standard will be possible, which is logical enough. There's a myriad of implementation issues with regards to how Oyster would work with a national ITSO standard travel smartcard, but given that any such national smartcard is a long way off that's not something to worry about too much. What is important is ensuring that future Oyster equipment (Oyster scanners on gates and in ticket offices etc) will be able to handle ITSO-standard smartcards as well - and it appears that this will indeed be the case. Also very interesting stuff regarding Chiltern. The bit about them accepting Oyster PAYG for journeys within Greater London - i.e. within the zones - is just an (overdue) logical development. It's a pretty stupid situation from the passengers point of view where Oyster PAYG can't be used at some intermediate stations. The situation on the DC lines (Euston - Watford) at Kilburn High Street and South Hampstead will be resolved when TfL take over from Silverlink in November, which just leaves the 'one' lines from Liverpool Street up to / Seven Sisters/ Tottenham Hale/ Walthamstow Central to be sorted out. C2C accepting Oyster PAYG at Rainham and Degenham Dock is just a logical development in that they are of course the only two stations C2C has in the zones that don't currently accept PAYG. However the stuff about Chiltern offering Oyster smartcards outside of London is very interesting - so much so that I'm going to start a new thread about it! |
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