Home |
Search |
Today's Posts |
|
London Transport (uk.transport.london) Discussion of all forms of transport in London. |
Reply |
|
LinkBack | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Croxley Rail Link Petition
"Boltar" wrote Maybe I'm missing something obvious , but if the goal is to get the tube to watford junction wouldn't it be a damn site cheaper just to re- extend the Bakerloo line there? Who realistically is going to go all round the houses via the met line from central london? AIUI the Bakerloo will take over the Watford New Line in a few years time. The purpose of the Croxley Link iis for connection with the WCML and access to Watford High Street. The stub to Watford Met is badly sited and could be abandoned, leaving land with development value which will contribute to the cost of building the link. Peter |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Croxley Rail Link Petition
Yeah, this is a situation where extending both the Bakerloo and Met
lines to Watford Junction is definitely a realistic possibility, and both will have different purposes and different transport flows. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Croxley Rail Link Petition
On 29 Mar 2007 10:48:52 -0700, "sweek"
wrote: Yeah, this is What is ? a situation where extending both the Bakerloo and Met lines to Watford Junction is definitely a realistic possibility, and both will have different purposes and different transport flows. Bakerloo tube stock is generally incompatible with both LU surface stock and the NR-style stock announced as intended to be used on the "London Overground" services which will eventually use the DC lines, so those are two reasons for not re-extending Bakerloo Line services to Watford Junction. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Croxley Rail Link Petition
On 29 Mar, 20:45, Charles Ellson wrote:
Bakerloo tube stock is generally incompatible with both LU surface stock and the NR-style stock announced as intended to be used on the "London Overground" services which will eventually use the DC lines, so those are two reasons for not re-extending Bakerloo Line services to Watford Junction. What's your point? If the Bakerloo were extended it would no longer share any track with National Rail stock, and there are four platforms (two islands) at Watford Junction for DC Lines and trains via Croxley, so two could be Met height and two could be tube height. U |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Croxley Rail Link Petition
On 29 Mar 2007 13:29:52 -0700, "Mr Thant"
wrote: On 29 Mar, 20:45, Charles Ellson wrote: Bakerloo tube stock is generally incompatible with both LU surface stock and the NR-style stock announced as intended to be used on the "London Overground" services which will eventually use the DC lines, so those are two reasons for not re-extending Bakerloo Line services to Watford Junction. What's your point? If the Bakerloo were extended it would no longer share any track with National Rail stock, and there are four platforms (two islands) at Watford Junction for DC Lines and trains via Croxley, so two could be Met height and two could be tube height. The DC line is only one part of what will form "London Overground". If the information in :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Overground is correct then the class 378 NR-style stock is already on the way. The DC line is part of what was built as a network of lines with common equipment and working arrangements, it is not a self-contained line. If anything it would be more sensible to run Met trains down the DC line from Watford to East/South London as they (apart from their loading gauge) are much more suitable for the line than tube trains. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Croxley Rail Link Petition
Charles Ellson wrote:
The DC line is part of what was built as a network of lines with common equipment and working arrangements Whatever gave you that idea? The Silverlink Metro is a mess of orphaned lines built by countless different companies that have been munged together to form a very mixed up network. The only line the DC line was built in conjunction with is in fact the Bakerloo. As far as rolling stock goes, TfL haven't ordered enough 378s to cover all lines and provide an improved service, and they'll take several years to all arrive. I wouldn't be surprised if the DC line never gets 378s, and goes straight to modified Victoria Line stock, which will become available around the same time. U |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Croxley Rail Link Petition
On 29 Mar 2007 15:50:26 -0700, "Mr Thant"
wrote: Charles Ellson wrote: The DC line is part of what was built as a network of lines with common equipment and working arrangements Whatever gave you that idea? The Silverlink Metro is a mess of orphaned lines built by countless different companies that have been munged together to form a very mixed up network. The only line the DC line was built in conjunction with is in fact the Bakerloo. That shows you know 6ugger all about it. The DC line is one line within an electrification scheme of the London and North Western Railway which involved not only the current DC and North London Lines but also services to Earls Court, Kew Bridge, Croxley Green and Rickmansworth. It was a combination of new build and upgrading using common rolling stock and electrification. snip |
Reply |
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Forum | |||
CROXLEY RAIL LINK MOVES ONE STEP CLOSER | London Transport | |||
An open letter regarding Croxley Rail link | London Transport | |||
Croxley Rail Link - Position Update October 2007 | London Transport | |||
CROXLEY RAIL LINK - POSITION UPDATE - February 2007 | London Transport | |||
Future is bleak for Croxley Rail Link | London Transport |