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(Movilla) wrote:

"Richard J." wrote in message
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Movilla wrote:
"Zen83237" wrote in message
Yesterday at Bushey I counted 7 Silverlink staff checking for valid
tickets. If I wasn't in a hurry to get the train I would have given
them a proper bollocking.

If it was 12 November, they weren't Silverlink staff. Do keep up!

I didn't have time to check their uniform but it _was_ the same
staff. I recognised one of them from last time.

Are Silverlink staff just changing their clothing or is this a
genuine change? New owners, same staff.

I'm wondering if the weekly Friday strike will be on again.

It can't be. They have new employers through TUPE. It will take some time
to be able to take industrial action against them and from what I recall
of the previous dispute they won't have any dispute with their new
employers and TUPE doesn't include pensions.

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Colin Rosenstiel

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In article ,
(Movilla) wrote:

"Richard J." wrote in message
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Movilla wrote:
"Zen83237" wrote in message
Yesterday at Bushey I counted 7 Silverlink staff checking for valid
tickets. If I wasn't in a hurry to get the train I would have given
them a proper bollocking.

If it was 12 November, they weren't Silverlink staff. Do keep up!

I didn't have time to check their uniform but it _was_ the same
staff. I recognised one of them from last time.

Are Silverlink staff just changing their clothing or is this a
genuine change? New owners, same staff.

I'm wondering if the weekly Friday strike will be on again.

It can't be. They have new employers through TUPE. It will take some time
to be able to take industrial action against them and from what I recall
of the previous dispute they won't have any dispute with their new
employers and TUPE doesn't include pensions.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Well the end of the strike was as well advertised as the start was, ie non
at all. Why did Silverlink and the new London Midland treat their customers
with such contempt.

Kevin

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(Zen83237) wrote:

Well the end of the strike was as well advertised as the start was,
ie non at all. Why did Silverlink and the new London Midland treat
their customers with such contempt.

Where did the new London Midland come into it?

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Colin Rosenstiel

On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:52 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

Where did the new London Midland come into it?

Because they did not make a statement on posters etc that the strike
would not continue?

I'm not at all impressed with LM so far, and it's just one reason why.
But then, I'm not impressed with the Go-Ahead Group in general - one
of the sloppier of the large groups.

Neil

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Colin Rosenstiel wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 15 Nov 2007
01:28 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
:

TUPE doesn't include pensions.

Rubbish.

http://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.org.uk/Pension_Rights/TUPE/

(and there's also the 1993 Railways Act for a proportion of staff
transferring)

Dave
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] (Dave Hillam) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 15 Nov 2007
01:28 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
:

TUPE doesn't include pensions.

Rubbish.

http://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.org.uk/Pension_Rights/TUPE/

(and there's also the 1993 Railways Act for a proportion of staff
transferring)

I was out of date but it's still not a full obligation to replicate the
entitlement from the previous employer's scheme. "If the proposed
alternative scheme offers benefits at a lower value than the previous
scheme then unfortunately, there is not a great deal a dissatisfied
employee can do practically if the new scheme is in compliance with the
relevant legislation."

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Colin Rosenstiel

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
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In article ,
] (Dave Hillam) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 15 Nov 2007
01:28 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
:

TUPE doesn't include pensions.

Rubbish.

http://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.org.uk/Pension_Rights/TUPE/

(and there's also the 1993 Railways Act for a proportion of staff
transferring)

I was out of date but it's still not a full obligation to replicate the
entitlement from the previous employer's scheme. "If the proposed
alternative scheme offers benefits at a lower value than the previous
scheme then unfortunately, there is not a great deal a dissatisfied
employee can do practically if the new scheme is in compliance with the
relevant legislation."


In the case of the railways though, as EMT explained in their staff
briefings (that were available on the www), the TOCs use an umbrella
'Railway Pension Scheme', which has sub divisions per TOC, and the former
MML section has just been renamed the East MIdlands section, with former MML
employees basically staying in the same section (renamed), and ex CT
employees moving sections.

Paul

In article ,
(Paul Scott) wrote:

"Colin Rosenstiel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
] (Dave Hillam) wrote:

Colin Rosenstiel wrote in uk.transport.london on Thu, 15 Nov 2007
01:28 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
:

TUPE doesn't include pensions.

Rubbish.

http://www.pensionsadvisoryservice.org.uk/Pension_Rights/TUPE/

(and there's also the 1993 Railways Act for a proportion of staff
transferring)

I was out of date but it's still not a full obligation to replicate
the entitlement from the previous employer's scheme. "If the proposed
alternative scheme offers benefits at a lower value than the previous
scheme then unfortunately, there is not a great deal a dissatisfied
employee can do practically if the new scheme is in compliance with
the relevant legislation."

In the case of the railways though, as EMT explained in their staff
briefings (that were available on the www), the TOCs use an
umbrella 'Railway Pension Scheme', which has sub divisions per TOC,
and the former MML section has just been renamed the East MIdlands
section, with former MML employees basically staying in the same
section (renamed), and ex CT employees moving sections.

Yes, but the dispute leading to the strikes against NatEx franchises were
much more obscure, surely?

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Colin Rosenstiel