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On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.

I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?
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On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.


I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?



They'd automatically be charged the £4 'penalty' fare for an
uncompleted journey if they only touched-in and didn't touch-out (or
likewise didn't touch-in and only touched-out).

However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.
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On Apr 17, 2:53*pm, Mizter T wrote:
On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:

On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote:
I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.


I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?


They'd automatically be charged the £4 'penalty' fare for an
uncompleted journey if they only touched-in and didn't touch-out (or
likewise didn't touch-in and only touched-out).

However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.


Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?
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On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG
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Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?


I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? ;-)

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On Apr 17, 9:51*pm, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG

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Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?


I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? *;-)


I was thinking in American (due to an incident at Whitechapel about
thirty years ago that has evidently scarred me for life).


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On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Paul Corfield wrote:

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:16:09 -0700 (PDT), MIG
wrote:

Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?


I knew Ken wanted to stretch his influence over the rail network but
Liverpool? ;-)


He's thinking ahead - that means that when Boris gets in, he can use his
staff pass next time he has to go up there to apologise.

tom

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MIG wrote in
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However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.


Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?



Hasn't it already happened?

http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia...ort_for_london

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On Apr 17, 10:16*pm, David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote:
MIG wrote :



However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.


Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?


Hasn't it already happened?

http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia...ansport_for_lo...


In January 2008 it would seem. Tar.
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On 18 Apr, 00:56, MIG wrote:

On Apr 17, 10:16 pm, David Jackman pleasereplytogroup wrote:

MIG wrote:


However the plan is for standalone Oyster readers to be installed at
the intermediate stations so Oyster PAYG could be used to start or
finish a journey at any station on the line.


Is that likely to happen between Seven Sisters and Liverpool (and
other similar arrangements)?


Hasn't it already happened?


http://www.nationalexpresseastanglia...ansport_for_lo...


In January 2008 it would seem. Tar.


I've made use of PAYG on these routes a bit already, and very handy it
is too. Hackney Central to Hackney Downs is, as one would hope and
expect, an out-of-station interchange - making such a transfer throws
the pretty grimey Hackney Downs station into sharp contrast with the
increasingly well cared for Hackney Central, which of course is now in
the custodianship of London Overground. Which is a shame, as the very
frequent service in and out of Liverpool St is otherwise makes Hackney
Downs quite an attractive proposition.

Going back to out-of-station interchanges, I think it'd be neat if
Liverpool St to Moorgate was designated as one, at least for PAYG
purposes - I'd much rather just walk the short distance between the
two than have to catch the Circle/Met/H&C one stop, and it could also
take a little bit of the pressure off Liverpool St Underground station.
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On 17 Apr, 14:02, Jon wrote:
On 16 Apr, 20:10, Paul Corfield wrote: I've seen a notice today that says that PAYG is valid Ealing Broadway -
Greenford (but not at intermediate stations) on FGW services with
immediate effect. *Note that the planned extension of validity to
Paddington has NOT occurred yet.


I wonder how the rules would apply to a person who used PAYG to board
at one end of the line intending to travel to the other but then for
some sensible and unforseeable reason (received a message their
appointment was cancelled, felt sick, was frightened by hooligans on
board, etc) changed their mind and got off earlier?


In this case the intermediate stations are deserted halts so the worst
that could happen is there being nowhere to touch out.

U



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